Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mitchell Winery


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The result was   Speedily deleted, A7, non-admin close. ukexpat (talk) 22:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Mitchell Winery

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This winery doesn't seem that notable. When visiting the site listed for Mitchell Winery the site only lists two products which are both ciders and not wines. Since the company doesn't even make wine I don't see how this is a notable enough to be listed on its own separate page. The rate beer source page does list the two products made by this winery/brewery, but neither product have been rated.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions.   —Wineguy64 (talk) 01:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - I went to the website and found six wines and two ciders. I don't think it establishes notability, but it does open it up a bit. LonelyBeacon (talk) 02:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC) egads!!!
 * Nomination was a bit messy, so I cleaned it up a tad. Seems to share its name with a South Australian winery, and is not to be confused with Mitchell Katz Winery. In fact, the Winery doesn't seem to produce wines at all: the note on the site says "While none of these products are available on the shelves yet, we hope one day they might. They are all in the "R&D" phase as we work to perfect the recipes and find out if they are commercially viable.  Check back later for more information." Notability is a pretty hard sell here; I can't find a single press release about them, their products do not exist, and the place is a recent startup (seems their website has all of 400 hits). Anybody had more luck finding information or is this a shoo-in for deletion? 83.203.183.112 (talk) 02:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - for now .... after its gets going and there are sources supporting notability, it can come back. LonelyBeacon (talk) 03:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - while slightly COI due to my writing the article, I do have a couple questions in an attempt to clarify. While I understand notability being a concern, why would whether or not cider is wine be one.  The government (ATF/TTB) as well as many other national and state entities considers cider to be wine, why doesn't Wikipedia?  Is this a consensus, or just the nominating editors opinion (no offence, nom)?  I fully understand if this AfD comes to a delete consensus due to WP:N, but I don't think the cider itself should be an issue. - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It was a response to the other editor's note that there were 6 wines produced; rather, they only produce the two ciders. It just happened to be at my fingertips when the edit conflict popped up. 83.203.183.112 (talk) 03:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete- I think our friend with the IP Address said it all, "I can't find a single press release about them, their products do not exist". Reyk  YO!  03:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Put a cork back in it and delete Notability is not confirmed; the winery appears to be strictly local, with no national fame. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:COMPANY and WP:N.-- S R X  03:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete it. Non-notable new company. RayAYang (talk) 06:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete it. This company doesn't warrant an entry. If wikipedia should be a collection of useless pages, this article should stay. Otherwise, it clearly should not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notepad47 (talk • contribs) 08:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete A7, so nominated ukexpat (talk) 21:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


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