Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moanalua High School

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 3 July 2005 10:22 (UTC)

Moanalua High School
"Non-notable school, how many of these pages are there? Playing at Carnegie is not enough to merit an article."
 * Keep. Well-written high school article.  (Nominated by 66.67.223.184; are anonymous editors allowed to nominate articles for VFD?)  Refer to WP:SCH.--BaronLarf 05:30, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * As much as I hesitate to help out a school article, inasmuch as the nomination isn't signed, I think you can do a speedy keep. CanadianCaesar 28 June 2005 03:56 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are. Uncle G June 28, 2005 11:11 (UTC)
 * Keep. Some of the unremarkable material could be trimmed (what school doesn't have 'long commencement ceremonies'?) Peter Grey 05:33, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I apologize for that, apparently a friend of mine made that addition on my account. I've removed the reference. &#38738;&#12356;(Aoi) 28 June 2005 07:13 (UTC)
 * Keep. Details of the article indicate that this is a notable high school, very well written within the genre. -- BD2412 talk June 28, 2005 03:28 (UTC)
 * Keep as example of a good school article. Double Blue  (Talk) 28 June 2005 03:45 (UTC)
 * Keep. A well-written article about a non-trivial subject. --Carnildo 28 June 2005 03:49 (UTC)
 * Comment: Who the crap keeps nominating these? They never get deleted. &mdash; Phil Welch 28 June 2005 04:01 (UTC)
 * BIG KEEP. Wow first big keep ever :).  I looked at the article and I must say that it is quite good for an article, any article, on Wikipedia.  I esp. like the template to the right.  When people nominate schools they waste peoples' time since it appears that a growing consensus has been built up that schools are worthy individual institutions to have their own verified article on Wikipedia.  As well - Wikipedia is not paper. --ShaunMacPherson 28 June 2005 04:12 (UTC)
 * Keep. For all the above reasons... DS1953 28 June 2005 05:13 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep bad faith nomination by drive-by anonymous user. SchmuckyTheCat 28 June 2005 06:18 (UTC)
 * Keep. Look how big this article is! And anyway, anything and everything is notable. Non-notability is biased.   ‡   Jarlaxle   June 28, 2005 06:20 (UTC)
 * anything and everything is notable &mdash; False. Wikipedia is not a collection of data, and everyone has things that they deem to be non-notable, whether they be numbers (Votes for deletion/11111), rocks (Votes for deletion/Danmark (island)), pubs (Votes for deletion/The White Lion, Thornbury), or the fences in my back garden. Uncle G June 28, 2005 11:11 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute. This Vfd was created by an anon? I thought anons couldn't nominate or vote on things.   ‡   Jarlaxle   June 28, 2005 06:22 (UTC)
 * Comment - 'Anyone' may edit and contribute to Wikipedia. That was the idea of it in the first place. No account is necessary, not even for VfD, although bad faith may discount this nomination. While I'm here, delete anyway, as I'm a man of anti-school-article principles. Proto t c 28 June 2005 09:33 (UTC)
 * By that, do you mean that you're opposed to all articles on schools, no matter how notable they are? Factitious June 28, 2005 10:17 (UTC)
 * No, but I don't believe a school in itself is notable. If a school is, why not every street/McDonald's/church/pub/factory/etc etc etc.  Wikipedia is not toilet paper. Unfortunately, I am outnumbered. Proto t c 28 June 2005 11:23 (UTC)
 * We're voting on this particular school article, though. What do you feel is wrong with it, specifically? Factitious June 28, 2005 21:35 (UTC)
 * Anons may nominate; anon votes have a tendency to be discounted. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; June 28, 2005 10:16 (UTC)
 * Yes, usually by people who voted the other way. But IP votes should only be discounted if bad faith can be proved. Proto t c 28 June 2005 11:23 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep and delist from VfD. Invalid nomination.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 28 June 2005 07:55 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable School. Klonimus 28 June 2005 18:33 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, but keep listing. Assume nomination was in good WP:FAITH. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; June 28, 2005 10:16 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article was listed for deletion by an anonymous person. If anons can't vote, then why should they be able to list things to be voted on? &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 28 June 2005 14:44 (UTC)
 * They are allowed to vote, and they are allowed to nominate. Factitious July 1, 2005 00:00 (UTC)
 * Keep. Schools are notable.  This is an informative and well-written article. Factitious June 28, 2005 10:17 (UTC)
 * Comment. From Wikipedia:Guide to Votes for deletion, "Anyone can make a nomination, anonymous users as well as pseudonymous users. ... What is important is not your name, but whether your nomination is in good faith."   &mdash; P Ingerson (talk) 28 June 2005 11:57 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article establishes notability: "the first student orchestra officially invited to play at Carnegie Hall" and "the distinction of graduating the most number of valedictorians each year, in comparison to the other schools of the Hawaii State Department of Education." (Although I'm not quite sure what a Valedictorian actually is.  I'm guessing it's the American equivalent of a successful A-Level student?  But no matter what they are, the fact that this school has got the most in Hawaii makes it notable.)     &mdash; P Ingerson (talk) 28 June 2005 12:04 (UTC)
 * Mega strong Keep &mdash; what all high school articles should aspire to be. :) &mdash; RJH 28 June 2005 15:24 (UTC)
 * Keep School article should not be nominated. CalJW 28 June 2005 15:38 (UTC)
 * Keep Well written, informative, and noteworthy. Toasthaven 28 June 2005 16:33 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep. Appears to be bad faith nomination. Wiki's not paper and the article is fine.
 * Keep Inherently notable, good article so far.   Un focused 29 June 2005 00:41 (UTC)
 * Keep, based on alumni list. --Idont Havaname 1 July 2005 07:58 (UTC)


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