Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mobilni obalni lanser


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The result was   redirect to RBS-15. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:28, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Mobilni obalni lanser

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Was prodded with the rationale "Could not find any reliable sources on the subject. Does not seem to meet WP:GNG", but the prod was declined. I feel this concern is still valid, because the sole source does not mention the subject at all, and even if did, it is a primary source, and is as such not sufficient to establish notability per WP:GNG. GregorB (talk) 08:03, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Upmerge into the unit article? The unit could be notable. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Could be upmerged into the unit article (but it does not really seem to be notable) or into Croatian Navy (the image is already there). However, the problem is that the content to be merged is currently completely unsourced. GregorB (talk) 18:55, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete / redirect to RBS-15. I'm pretty sure sources can be found for this, but give the extent of coverage present, I don't see a need for a separate article from the missile this launcher fires. Someone not using his real name (talk) 03:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The truck mount is mentioned here; you can use that as ref for the main article. Extent of coverage is below WP:GNG at the moment. Someone not using his real name (talk) 03:49, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, this appears to be their new launcher. The one mentioned in the book above looked like this . Someone not using his real name (talk) 04:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Never mind, the book says the T-815 based launcher has four missiles, so it is this one. The pce.hr source confirms the type of truck used. Someone not using his real name (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:24, 4 August 2013 (UTC)




 * Comment - There are sources referring to the mobilni obalni lanser (MOL):, , , , . I'm just wondering if mobilni obalni lanser is a descriptive term (literally translates as "mobile coastal launcher") because all these sources specify the term in lowercase - and I'd expect a name to have an initial capital letter. The Hidra source may mean that the term mobilni obalni lanser is used as official reference anyway though.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:03, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You are probably right that the phrase is generic in the Croatian language. I suspect however that the second source, nacional.hr, refers to a specific one as "mobilnih obalnih lansera MOL". But it's too brief a mention to be certain. The slobodnadalmacija.hr source clearly refers to this one, because it says it has four tubes and a command cabin. The morh.hr source has a picture of the new truck (in the gallery below the article), but with only two tubes installed. But all these mentions are textually too brief to be able to make much use of them. There is little doubt the system exists. But there seems to be too little coverage of it, and the info is at a level of vagueness that doesn't justify a separate article from the missile. Someone not using his real name (talk) 15:07, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If I'm reading those sources right, they now have a grand total of 3 MOL units that are operational; the 2007 book said two. Someone not using his real name (talk) 15:12, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The Mobile Autonomous Launcher (MAL), which is based on the same type of Tatra truck (although a 12x12 in that case) is only covered in the article of the missile it carries, BrahMos. Someone not using his real name (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to RBS-15, worth mentioning there. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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