Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mobina Nejad


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 20:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Mobina Nejad

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Subject is a youth taekwondo practitioner. Sources are primary and does not satisfy WP:ANYBIO, WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:00, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I added some references from reliable secondary sources such as Burnaby Now. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:24, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. She is the only taekwondo practitioner who has won a gold medal without conceding a point. It's a record, not only for the youth category, but also for the adult category. SadioDaleone (talk) 10:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)



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 * Delete: First source gives mere passing mention to Nejad. Second source is a stats page in a taekwondo database. Third and fourth sources again give mere passing mention. All four would also qualify as WP:ROUTINE coverage. So what we're ostensibly left with (note: I've searched for other sources) is this article from World Taekwondo. Unfortunately, WP:ATHLETE doesn't seem to have any guidelines for martial artists, but as I see it, this also fails WP:BASIC.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  10:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Junior martial artists, even junior world champions or Junior Olympic champions, are generally considered non-notable. WP:NSPORTS says athletes should have competed at the highest level and junior events are not that.  WP:MANOTE specifically states that only adult black-belt events can bestow notability, and only some of those are sufficient.  The coverage is all based on her success at the junior world championships and is typical sports reporting.  I would say she fails WP:GNG, WP:NSPORT, and WP:MANOTE.  I think both WP:TOOSOON and WP:BLP1E apply. Papaursa (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * delete Fails WP:GNG, WP:MANOTE, and WP:NSPORT. The only source that might count towards meeting the GNG is the one at worldtaekwondo.org, but that article is put out by the WTF which sponsored the tournament she won so it's not independent. The "Stars of Tomorrow" title also indicates that she's not yet a star and that notability requires a WP:CRYSTALBALL. Junior martial artists have never been considered notable. Coverage is all about a single junior event and claims of notability are too soon.Sandals1 (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep . She is the only taekwondo practitioner who has won a gold medal without conceding a point. It's a record, not only in the junior category, but also in the senior category as well.SadioDaleone (talk) 15:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It's your first AfD, but it's worth noting that "not conceding a point" is not part of any notability criteria. In fact, the article sourced isn't even sure it hasn't been done before--it begins "Nobody can confirm whether or not if it is a world record ...".  To my knowledge, success at junior martial arts events has never been sufficient to show WP notability.  Unverified claims, especially ones that don't establish notability even if true, don't provide adequate justification of notability.  I also struck out your last vote since you had already voted previously.  Commenting more than once is allowed, but multiple votes are not. Papaursa (talk) 02:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete A youth athlete who isn't notable on WP:GNG grounds. Perhaps we can recreate the article if she continues her successful career. SportingFlyer  T · C  08:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


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