Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mobina sadat atashi (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:15, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Mobina sadat atashi
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This is an article about a child actress without any evidence of notability. The only source cited as a reference does not go any significant way towards establishing notability, to judge by [http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fa&u=http://oomid.ir/post/6078/%25D9%2585%25D8%25A8%25D9%258A%25D9%2586%25D8%25A7-%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AA%25D8%25B4%25D9%258A.html&prev=/search?q%3D%2522%25D8%25A7%25D9%2588%2B%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AE%25DB%258C%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%2B%25D8%25AF%25D8%25B1%2B%25D9%2581%25DB%258C%25D9%2584%25D9%2585%2B%2B%25D8%25B9%25D9%2585%25D9%2584%25DB%258C%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AA%2B%25D9%2585%25D9%2587%25D8%25AF%2B%25DA%25A9%25D9%2588%25D8%25AF%25DA%25A9%2B%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B2%25DB%258C%2B%25D8%25B2%25DB%258C%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25DB%258C%25DB%258C%2B%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%2B%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B2%2B%25D8%25AE%25D9%2588%25D8%25AF%2B%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D8%25A6%25D9%2587%2B%25D9%2586%25D9%2585%25D9%2588%25D8%25AF%25D9%2587%2B%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B3%25D8%25AA.%2522%2522%25D9%2582%25D8%25B3%25D9%2585%25D8%25AA%2B%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AE%25D8%25B1%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2588%25D8%25A7%25D9%258A%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%2B,%2B%25D8%25B9%25D9%2583%25D8%25B3%2B%25D9%2587%25D8%25A7%25D9%258A%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2588%25D8%25A7%25D9%258A%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%2B,%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B2%25D9%258A%25DA%25AF%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2588%25D8%25A7%25D9%258A%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%2B,%2B%25D8%25B3%25D8%25B1%25D9%258A%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2588%25D8%25A7%25D9%258A%2B%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%2B%2522%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3DRJx%26channel%3Dfs%26gl%3Duk%26biw%3D959%26bih%3D647 this Google translation]. There are also two external links. One of them is to a site called MyDramaList, which allows anyone to create content. (From the site's "about us" page: "MyDramaList.com’s goal is to provide Asian drama/movie fans a site where they can create their very own dramalists...") The other is IMDb. Apart from the fact that IMDb is a non-reliable source, and gives no evidence of notability as it is indiscriminate in who it includes, the full and unabridged content of its biography of Mobina Atashi is "Mobina Atashi is an actress, known for Migren (2012), Gharibeh (2012) and Amaliyate Mahde Koodak (2012)": scarcely substantial coverage.

From a Google search for "Mobina Sadat Atashi" the first hits were: three on Wikipedia, one on Wikidata, three archived copies of MyDramaList (mentioned above), a blog, a copy of the Wikipedia article on a mirror site, a picture of her uploaded to a file-sharing site, and so on... From a similar search omitting her middle name, i.e. "Mobina Atashi" I got a page telling me just her name and the fact that she is a child actress, and nothing else, several pages on IMDb, some of which contained no content at all (e.g. the page "News for Mobina Atashi" did not have any news about her to list), a page telling me her name and the fact that she is an actress, and nothing else, etc etc. I tried a Google search for her name in Persian, "مبینا سادات آتشی". All but three of the first page of hits had either "blog" or "forum" in the URL. I looked at the three exceptions, and found (1) another blog, which doesn't happen to have "blog" in its URL, but does in the page tile, and in any case consists of just pictures someone has uploaded, including one picture of her, (2) a video that someone has uploaded, (3) a page with two sentences about her.

Two days ago I mentioned the need for better sources as evidence of notability to the account that created the article (on that account's talk page) and to the account that posted on my talk page about it (on my talk page), but no such better sources have been provided.

The conclusion of all this is that there is absolutely no evidence anywhere to even remotely suggest notability by Wikipedia standards.

Although it is not part of the reason for deletion, it may be helpful to mention a little of the background to this article and this deletion nomination. The article was previously tagged with a PRODBLP, which was removed after one inadequate source had been added. It was later given a PROD, which was removed without explanation. I made a previous AfD nomination, and then the editor who had removed the PROD posted to my talk page, suggesting that the subject was notable, and that PROD had been placed there by a vandal. I withdrew the AfD nomination, to allow a chance for evidence of notability to be provided, and also to allow myself time to check the vandalism accusation. I found that the account which created the article (Sorudeh), the account which removed the PRODBLP (ویشکا), and the account that removed the PROD (Nazaninan) and made the vandalism accusation are all blocked on Persian Wikipedia for sockpuppetry, and Persian Wikipedia article about Mobina Sadat Atashi has been repeatedly deleted, and now salted. The editor who was accused of vandalism (Nojan) is the Persian Wikipedia administrator who deleted the article and blocked the accounts for sockpuppetry. The account that made the vandalism accusation has now posted to my talk page several times. It is difficult to understand much of what he/she says, because of difficulty with English, but the essential substance seems to be that Nojan is a vandal whose actions are motivated by malice towards Sorudeh, ویشکا, and Nazaninan. I have been able to find no evidence to support that accusation. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:37, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi mister ,Honestly, I As the author of this article I do not know What should I say!Perhaps the reason for this discussion This is being disputed.I just hope Here is justice.As in Persian Wikipedia No matter The opposition thereto.And acts of personal taste!I am grateful to you Allowing that to this article The source added.But unfortunately Another Persian Articles resembling Shahrokh Estakhri and Siavash Kheirabi Have similar problems.I ask you They also Also be bihaved.tanks(Sorudeh (talk) 18:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC))
 * Delete This actress is not yet notable. She may become notable at some future time, and have significant coverage, but as of yet she lacks such.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.