Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern English Secondary Boarding school,Wokil Tole,Janakpur


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. WP:V takes precedence over notability disputes. Because nobody can find third-party sources, and the only source cited was the school's own website, which is a dead link, the school is unverifiable.  Sandstein  21:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Modern English Secondary Boarding school,Wokil Tole,Janakpur

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A secondary school with no claim of notability. I was unable to find any good sources from Google. Fails GNG and should be redirected or merged per SCHOOLOUTCOMES. —  Yash talk stalk 07:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 07:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist  (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 07:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is named as a secondary school, which is usually a high school. However, the article states it includes "lower school and middle school." I could find zero independent sources to indicate that this school exists. This is odd for a school that is claimed to have a thousand students. There also don't seem to be any notable former students. Jack N. Stock (talk) 02:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , in India, secondary school ranks lower to a high school (which is referred to as "higher secondary school"). Secondary school is usually from grade 7-10 and high school (or higher secondary) for grade 11 and 12. Nepal follows the same as far as I know, so it isn't actually a high school. Secondary school is an equivalent of a middle school. —  Yash talk  stalk 03:58, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Now that you've reminded me, I think I've heard that before. Based on WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, it makes it even less likely to be kept, even if there was any evidence it existed. Jack N. Stock (talk) 04:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. I've added official website as reference and done some necessary changes. -- Kaulder ( contribs  &#124;  talk ) 07:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I am sorry but the official website doesn't help in establishing notability of the topic. It only proves that the school exists. Per SCHOOLOUTCOMES, articles on schools that are below the level of a high school are generally deleted unless there are substantial sources out there which help in determining the subject's notability. Coverage in reliable independent sources will be needed especially since this is not even a high school, and I am unable to find any.  —  Yash talk  stalk 07:49, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright ! I am also unable to find any reliable independent sources. Unfortunately, delete the article. -- Kaulder ( contribs  &#124;  talk ) 07:55, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding precedent and consensus. Not sure where the claims that this is not a "high school" come from. Of course it is. Any school that educates at secondary level (generally, up to 16, which is the school-leaving age in many countries) is a secondary school. The definition of "high school" claimed above is purely an American one. We have always considered any school that educates up to 16 to meet the criteria. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:28, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , where I studied, secondary school was an equivalent of middle school - an intermediate between primary and higher secondary school (also known as high school). Although the defination of "high school" varies from region to region. But education in Nepal states that "Grades 11 and 12 are considered as higher secondary level" - the same as it was where I studied and I saw a similar pattern. Best, —  Yash talk  stalk 12:12, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Regardless of the level of schooling, there is no verification. I couldn't find anything, and neither could the creator. Without reliable sources, we can't be sure of anything stated in the article. Jack N. Stock (talk) 14:11, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG, with no independent coverage. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:13, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment – there is currently an RfC related to this and if successful would mean that existing is enough to warrant an article. Laurdecl talk 23:43, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep. We have usually counted grade 10 in India asa secondaryschool. Query: isgrade 10 sufficient to prepare for university?  If not, we may have to revisit that  point.  DGG ( talk ) 02:54, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as a secondary school. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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