Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moglen Orthodox Archbishopric


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Some people have remarked that this religious group might be notable if independent sources are provided, but so far none have been provided. If it's very fringe, there appears to be nothing worth merging into the mainline Orthodox church either. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Moglen Orthodox Archbishopric

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Recently founded religious fringe group, no evidence of their existence except their own website (with some evidence of COI Wikipedia editing ); number of members doesn't exceed literally two handful; zero outside coverage; entirely non-notable. Probably from the same folks who brought us Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia, as well as this. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia should not be used as a publicist. The only evidence for the existence of this "archbishopric" is it's website and a free press release. Not notable.--Dexippus (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  15:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, without prejudice. Religious denominations and schismatic groups shouldn't really face a stiff bar, if they're mentioned in independent sources.  But The Moglen Orthodox Archbishopric plans to hold its regular services in private homes of its adherents, and as such it may be beneath the radar of sources. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge No need for a separate article - possible merger with Bulgarian Exarchate. Vishnava (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with Bulgarian orthodox church. BTW, see http://www.mpa-gr.org/?p=17 --Komita (talk) 17:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * LOOOOOOLLLL, it's getting better and better :-) "Our archbishop will pray for the lost souls of the EYP agents who vandalize Wikipedia." (For outsiders: EYP is the Greek secret service, that must be me, I'm famous...!) I'll include the kind Archbishop in my prayers too, srsly. – But really, merge? What's there to merge if there is absolutely no reliably sourced information? Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you delete both articles, you will angry many Bulgarian people... I propose a paragraph somewhere "There is a group that claims to be a church of Bulgarians in Greece". --Komita (talk) 18:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Both" articles? Which other? Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny but in Bulgarian forums suspect "you" will delete everything related to Bulgarians in Greece... The other is about the organization "Bulgarian Human rights in Macedonia". --Komita (talk) 18:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, are we being discussed in forums too? How nice. Links, por favor? Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Only in Bulgarian language.  --Komita (talk) 18:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It's really sweet to see I'm still remembered ;-p (even if, I must say it's outrageous: I'm still waiting for my arrears from those Greek service espionage cheats...). More seriously, this is really too fringe to deserve an article.--Aldux (talk) 20:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No attribution of the notability of this sect to independent sources. --Dhartung | Talk 21:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Stifle. I really tried to find some verifiable sources. Unfortunately, there just doesn't seem to be any news coverage about the group and the only source available is the group's own website.Divinediscourse (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


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