Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamed Omar (digital media personality)


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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 01:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Mohamed Omar (digital media personality)

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Nothing on the face of this article lends confidence that the subject is encyclopedically notable. Managing editors and "consultants" usually are not. BD2412 T 17:13, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. This personality meets the notability criteria due to the work position. I believe it should remain and get developed. It was already voted to keep by another admin. --Emna (talk) 17:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by "already voted to keep by another admin", but if you're referring the PROD being rolled back, that was me and I'm not an admin, and rolling back a PROD just means that more thought is appropriate, not that it should be kept. And as you see below that, after analysis, I think that it ought to be deleted. Herostratus (talk) 18:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Which if true makes him look pretty notable. And then, it goes on to describe and interview him, which is a good start toward having a meaty article. But I don't think it's a OK source... It's a one-person blog by an Amber Dover, who doesn't have an article here or much internet presence. She says she has a Master's in Media Studies from the New School, but so what. On the other hand, it's a good blog with a professional look. She's not a rando PJ Girl I guess. But then she says there was an article about her published by NPR, but I can't find any evidence of that, so... There's no fact checking and I just can't trust her to not be taking the " 1.5 million unique monthly visitors and 6-8 million page views a month" from Mohamed Omar himself and not checking. So I'd reject that source.
 * Delete. So let's analyze... The first reference, which is Glamour Girl Blog (I'll talk about the source presently) says
 * Perhaps the source changed, but I don't think she said anything about NPR. Hobit (talk) 13:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

So then we have HuffPost. Good meaty article. Howeverrrr.... It's by a "contributor". A contributor is any random person who sends an article to HuffPost that they like. They do get paid (high two figures is my guess), but they're not professional writers and I doubt their stuff gets fact-checked, at least with any rigor. So, at best "better source needed" if not rejected outright.

So, but I mean, that's two sources saying he is/was the managing editor of FilFan.com, and at least one other says so too, so that gives me growing confidence that that part, at least is true.

But does that mean much? FilFan looks to be a legit website... This web analysis site (whoever they are) says it is #1 website in Egypt for "Social Sciences" (I guess that includes entertainment news/gossip), which is good, but only #119 for Egyptian websites overall. Is that low? It sounds low to me. #21,784 worldwide. Do we want to have articles where the main notability was being Managing Editor at the world's #21,784 website? Since that's a lot more than one person over time, we're talking 100,000 articles... oof.

Source #3 is a press release, and I can't read #4 but it ref's a minor fact.

Let's see... he was a speaker at Applied Research Institute–Jerusalem seminar... that source says he was managing editor of FilFan, past tense. Anyway, that's nothing, and I'm not finding lots of good sources... the top refs are just bare listings, address and so on... His other jobs are not notable. It's just not enough. Delete. Herostratus (talk) 18:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete @ Herostratus, nailed it with the explanation! QuantumRealm (meow • pawtrack) 10:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as the subject of this article does not meet the criteria listed at WP:AUTHOR, which is the applicable notability guideline for editors, journalists, and other creative professionals, such as this person (a digital media personality). Furthermore, per HuffPo on the Reliable sources/Perennial sources page, "editors show consensus for treating HuffPost contributor articles as self-published sources." So, the HuffPost article cited in the WP article in question is not considered a reliable source. -  t u coxn \talk 03:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


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