Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Usman Rana


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The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Mohammad Usman Rana

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The article fails to meet the relevant notability guideline. Mr Rana, a student, is virtually unknown outside of Norway, where he is active as a columnist for a local newspaper. Note that all the references given in the article are in Norwegian. Nidrosia (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, easily meets the general notability guideline. Why? Because numerous reliable sources cover him. All the nominator's deletion reasons are invalid: 1) students can be notable 2) being known in only one country is enough, as long as there are reliable sources 3) the language of the references is irrelevant. Geschichte (talk) 07:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * A student may be just as notable as a University Professor. But if so, she/he is notable for some reason. The merits listed in this article include: (1) good grades at school; (2) leading a Norwegian group of Pakistani students; (3) meeting the Justice Minister of Norway; (4) writing for public debate. Note that the candidate has never published a peer-reviewed paper, and he has never published a book. There are thousands of Norwegian students whose achievements are no less significant. They do not have individual entries in the Wikipedia. Nidrosia (talk) 12:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I can't see the relevance of the "no english sources"-argument. There is plenty of reliable sources. That is what counts per WP:N. Rettetast (talk) 09:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability," see notability. Nidrosia (talk) 12:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, but the coverage of this person is not trivial. Rettetast (talk) 16:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "Non-triviality is a measure of the depth of content of a published work, and how far removed that content is from a simple directory entry or a mention in passing that does not discuss the subject in detail. A credible 200-page independent biography of a person that covers that person's life in detail is non-trivial, whereas a birth certificate or a 1-line listing on an election ballot form is not," see notability. None of the eighteen references given in the article amount to more than one or two pages. Most of the references deal with trivial matters (good grades at school, receiving a job offer, etc.). The three search functions at the top of the page ("news, books, scholar") affirm that Mr Usman Rana is mentioned in one book only, namely, Bruce Bawer, Surrender: Appeasing Islam, Sacrificing Freedom (2009). In this book there is a brief reference to the political ideas held by Mr Usman Rana (p. 209). However, this reference, which should have been listed in the Wikipedia entry on Mr Usman Rana, is very far from being a "credible 200-page independent biography." Nidrosia (talk) 18:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Being notable in one country is sufficient, and the nom admits as much--and the sources appear to confirm it.    DGG ( talk ) 21:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep He is well known in Norway and the article is well supplied with references to that, so he is obviously a person that should have an article in Wikipedia. And remember that this is the English language version of Wikipedia, that the person in question is not living in the US or the UK is thus not relevant. Ulflarsen (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is obviously a person who is reasonably active in the Norwegian public sphere. There are many reliable sources that cover his views. Meets BIO. --Kjetil_r 23:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.