Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Atta (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Star  Mississippi  01:47, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Mohammed Atta (disambiguation)

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This disambiguation includes only three people. The only "Mohammed Atta" in this disambiguation is the Egyptian 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta. Another person, Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta is not even named Mohammed (Mahmoud might have been misread as Mohammed). The only other figure with "Atta" and "Mohammed" in their name is Atta Muhammad Nur. This kind of makes it a WP:ONEOTHER situation: If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article, pointing to the other article. (This means that readers looking for the second topic are spared the extra navigational step of going through the disambiguation page.) Syrikist (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Disambiguations. Syrikist (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Forgot to add that Atta Muhammad Nur actually spells his name "Ata Mohammad Noor", not "Atta". (Twitter and Instagram) Syrikist (talk) 18:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2023 September 7.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 18:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. What a mess. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The reason for the disambiguation page is that these people get confused:
 * Mohamed Atta was a terrorist who crashed a Boeing into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
 * Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta was a different terrorist who American newspapers confused with Mohamed Atta.
 * Atta Muhammad Nur was mujahideen/politician who fought against the communists and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
 * How names are transliterated into Latin script varies, and is often done inconsistently. In addition, whether the family name is written first or last also varies. The example of Atta Muhammad Nur cited by Syrikist is a good example of both of these: his Instagram ID is "nooratamohammad", and the page says "Ata Mohammad Noor". There is therefore a need for this disambiguation page. -- Toddy1 (talk) 09:06, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Per the source you cited, the confusion between Mohamed Atta and Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta just existed for a few days and both were confirmed different people within weeks of the 9/11 attacks. The source says "The Boston Globe, which was one of the few newspapers that printed this rumor, issued a correction a few days later and said their original report was "a case of mistaken identity." The Israeli Ministry of Justice stated: "It's not the same person. It's obviously two different men." (November 2001) Thus, I'm pretty sure no one nowadays remains confused between the Egyptian terrorist Mohamed Atta with the American-based terrorist Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta, who isn't even very notable. Secondly, could you cite a source (I personally founded none) in which there is confusion between the Egyptian terrorist Mohamed Atta and and the Afghan general Ata Mohammad Noor/Atta Muhammad Nur? Also the Egyptian terrorist Mohamed Atta is the primary topic, not Mahmoud Atta and Ata Mohammad Noor. Nevertheless, if you believe there is a confusion between the three figures, we can insert a distinguish template on these three articles, rather than an unnecessary disambiguation. Cheers! Syrikist (talk) 22:02, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep for sake of preventing confusion regarding which Mohammed Atta is being looked up.TH1980 (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * What confusion? One of the entries has the names reversed, and even if you consider Mahmoud somehow a Mohammed, there is a clear primary topic, so WP:TWODABS would apply. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:37, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Syrikist and Clarityfiend's comments. Such a poor disambiguation, I don't think this even needs a discussion. OsamusBLQ (talk) 22:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - Per nom, better handled with hatnotes (WP:ONEOTHER). Atta Muhammad Nur seems like a stretch. Suriname0 (talk) 19:34, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.