Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Jaraya (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. Tone 16:22, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Mohammed Jaraya
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Been deleted twice before, and nothing has changed regarding his notability since the last deletion. While he has fought in Glory competitions, the standard is fighting for one of their world titles, which he has not. Fails WP:NKICK.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Morocco-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete still not a notable kick boxer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There is nothing since the last AfD discussion that shows his notability has increased. He still fails to meet WP:NKICK and WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 21:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

He is top 10 ranked fighter in Glory, so he meets the requirements. he is the most popular fighter in his division and has made his name in the kickboxing world as early as 18 years old. he is also extremely popular on social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.137.2.195 (talk) 23:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * As a new, and currently blocked, user you need to understand that no kickboxing organization's rankings have an impact on WP notability. Independent world rankings do.  If you can provide evidence of such rankings, please do so and I will change my vote. Papaursa (talk) 04:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

A kickboxing athlete is presumed notable if they:

Fought for a world title of a major organization or promotion (K-1, WMC, ISKA, WAKO-Pro, Glory, It's Showtime, WKN, WBC Muaythai, PKA (through 1986), or WKA (through 2000)). Jaraya is fighting for the major organization Glory. that's enough according to the requirements — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.148.129.62 (talk) 14:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Another new IP from the Netherlands. Fighting for a world title is not the same as fighting for a promotion.  It's worth noting that he's ranked #8 in his division by Glory, but the fighter ranked #1 isn't even mentioned in Combat Press's world top 10.  He's not close to meeting WP:NKICK. Papaursa (talk) 20:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:GNG. "Popular" is an ephemeral and unclassifiable metric, but his fan base is not in the millions. He's lost more than won in the past two years. He has about 24k followers on Facebook, and six (6) followers on Twitter. Bearian (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Wrong information; he doesn’t use Facebook and Twitter. He only has a Instagram page withover 210.000 followers. He is a big name in kockboxing and Holland&Morocco. Clearly you guys don’t know a lot about the sport. 85.148.129.62 (talk) 22:40, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. Delete since not notable by the professional standard or GNG. Salt because this article is recreated after every delete. gidonb (talk) 15:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


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