Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Sami Abugoush


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Mohammed Sami Abugoush

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Content must be verifiable. The assertions made here are not. No credible evidence of notability has been presented. Biruitorul Talk 20:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - based on the above web searches, there seems to be a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources, so the subject doesn't appear to comply the notability requirements. PhilKnight (talk) 19:17, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

thank to all with my respect and looking forward to hear from you gentleman's —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 21:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * the above subject Mohammed sami abugoush is important issue in big part in the meddle east i am working on it since i start to write, i can finish adding my information soon but everyday i find more and more to write about i think writing take time , we need to know about famous person in his field some people true pioneer's smart and educated such as the people who write in this site but we dont know about them until someone come forward and write about them , first impression is good but judging subject need more than 100 to reach a fair decisions, lets see how this articl will look like in two weeks

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  23:11, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete the article is a self-promotion and hence conflict of interest. Nonverifiable. The two books on diamond industry must be reasonably notable, but I cannot find them on amazon. - Altenmann >t 00:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete nor can I find the books on WorldCat, or GBooks. The advertisement for his book at has had only 21 views, many probably by people checking this AfD.      DGG ( talk ) 01:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

 
 *  do not delete gentleman's if this book is not on amazon or WorldCat because still in publication proses, we can judge this not by what we think but what general people think, this book start to be published this year in the middle east and then around the world for example only lets see where we can find this great book

this book in every world diamond and jewelry fair such as hong kong, basil,las vagues, Bahrain, Dubai  , and every bookshop in Dubai, Cairo , Amman , and so many news papers write about it, if we put things on fairness scale we should give credit for these people who take the time to write , i navigate the Wikipedia daily, i see lots of articles maybe i don't see  self-promotion here i see information in that field most of us don't know it , i see honor ship to the writer and thanks for his work , i am sure he do not need self promotion he has been on TV  interviews over 37 times i can upload them here , but we are trying to add something worth people time to read. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 08:17, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * do not delete education the public is not the amount of information that is put into book or brain or we learn but undigested all our life ,we must have life building man making character making assimilation of ideas so we can learn from other people culture and civilizations, i can't see self promotions act there , he is not writing about him self , we are writing about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 18:04, 12 December 2009
 * Delete as purely product promotion. Note the extensive gallery of photos designed by the subject. These are clearly photos designed to be used in advertisements. The subject may or may not be notable, but this article is clearly advertising. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 23:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Do not deletethe subject is not promotion at all show me one single example??!! if photos from general people point view is promotions which i disagree, i try to bring his work from him directly due to the copy right issue ,so instead of deleting hole articles post what you think to make it better or try to say the positive side beside what you think its negative , the subject just other people profile ,every note until now didn't prove something logic why should be deleted , its basic information and thats his life or part of it ,its not my job to bring examples from the Wikipedia for articles people think it should be deleted , i always post the positive side and if something need to be fix i do that , i do not judge people simply because i don't know them , i try to know them first then i say the truth about them but i do not ignore or deny  there exuberant contribution to humanity.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 04:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, please. I am an inclusionist, but the this. is. an. advertisement, and it is clear that this guy is as notable as I am (which is to say, not at all). 'Nuff said. Moogwrench (talk) 05:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

we should consider all facts and possibilities and focus on one that will inspire Wikipedia readers and those who we care about. this is not add or promotion or advertisement this is honorable man and we like honor him, we write about killers, murders,kings, writers, journalist,...etc some of them good some bad some ugly, some we know and some we don't if will take notes from people just because they think its promotions without support for there claims in facts or merits,then Wikipedia will be opinion pages about what i think and what you think! Wikipedia built on facts and truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 08:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * do not delete until now i don't see logic to what has been said about this page, first they said promotion then advertisement , then what??? i see other reason for this un-logical attack on someone is well known in the middle east and famous figure, as i said put fact's not allegations we do not discuss allegations when someone put facts, if we prove its not what has been said then what will be the issue?? maybe the name is the issue maybe the background??? we all equal under god low we can't just whatever we focus on determine how we feel and act, so rather than jump into conclusions,

Wikipedia is a flower grow in our hearts but it’s not a thorn to some group of people who just “think’ Wikipedia should develop love for all ,its way of life, so before we critics each other culture or believe , we should put our actions and feeling on the fairness scale for truth and righteousness. May god bless all —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 18:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)  i really don't know how to sign after i finish may someone show me please
 * do not delete None- logical criticism to this article without, smart discussion, experience evaluation, and factual interpretation of article make me confused to what has been said here . civilized criticism is often informed by basic  theory, which is the philosophical discussion and  its goals. It look like the above activities are closely related, unified  criticisms  are not different like we are reading same mind and I hope not what I am feeling, none of the above comment based on fact or they can be theorists.


 * delete. Obviously the self-promoting author does not know the rules of wikipedia. Claims for fame are not supported by verifiable references. Twri (talk) 04:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

gentleman's its not who is right is this discussions but what is right? on one can judge someone who does no wrong, error ceases to be error when they corrected , freedom of speech here is the right to be wrong gentleman's but not the right to do wrong ,again where is the logic in your words Mr\Mis. Twri??? you said (Obviously the self-promoting author does not know the rules of wikipedia. )is this how we think these days show me what you are talking about, i am getting close to be sure its the name"mohammed" the issue here and the problem since i can't find one single subject from the article you can point at i don't think you even read the article i am sure you just reading the aricle title,maybe its time to have good intentions, if putting obstacles in front of the wagon wheels from what i see i can imagine how is state of minds behind this frightful actions, i create this account under his name and i can't understand how people throw judgments with bases to facts or they didn't even ask , HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S (self-promoting author )LETS NOT PLAY THE GAMES diamondexpert (diamondexpert)  —Preceding undated comment added 06:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC).
 * do not delete


 * Delete - no coverage in reliable sources to establish notability -- Whpq (talk) 17:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

its look like every time i read or reread a comment on this article its like reading old classic story we don't see more than what we read before, all whats been written about deletion here is really missing one thing ? talent or maybe experience or both, if Wikipedia is for group of people who live there life under (i think or i guess) then its wasting time talking to them  ! its very basic when we read any article and we see references, we understand that someone got some information out of them, but if someone read only title and see "mohammed" the first feeling will negative, its not what is in the article its really the name, i was working on edit the article since 3 weeks and its take time to be done.thanks gentleman's Diamondexpert (talk) 21:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[[talk]]Diamondexpert (talk) 21:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * do not delete we all know negative people will always criticize its funny more than sad ,little talent leads to negative attitude, i guess


 * DO NOT DELETE WE CAN FIX WHAT IS MISSING OR WRONG BUT WE DONT DELETE INFORMATION OR ARTICLES SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS SOME ERRORS. 94.142.39.189 (talk) 13:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)MIKE ZACKOFF94.142.39.189 (talk) 13:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 *  do not delete hi ... i was reading articls on wiki since 3 years ago, i seen alot of good ones , and bad ones , this article is very good if we compare it with others , references are good i know this name i know what he is... and if we need more info. we should sreach the net for more , i vote do not delete. thanks shhina sabreen - DTCC - london 94.142.39.189 (talk) 13:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)shahina94.142.39.189 (talk) 13:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note to admin: The above two opinions purporting to be from somebody signing as "MIKE ZACKOFF", and "shhina sabreen" are from the same IP address. -- Whpq (talk) 14:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Do not delete.Diamondexpert (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)diamondexpertDiamondexpert (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * note to admin now its the people who post there opinions, before references , promotions, etc, i guess its when you choose the lesser of two evils we always remember that it is still evil,to settle a disagreement is on the basis of what is right , not who is right, let me ask you "Whpq" did you ever share a computer with anyone or room or apartment? if two people sharing a computer , i am just confuse are we reading opinions or counting computers here , its really poor "Whpq" weather you put up or you just ... , i didnt know the discussion here about ( how many computers, promotions ,self-promoting author, what else??) please lets keep our minds out of the dark past and advice learning makes man humble and perfect, ...try to read and learn nothing , i wish you good luck.


 * do not delete a massage to all " god give us the serenity to accept one another with things we cannot change,and he gave us the courage to change things we can, and the wisdam to know the difference" i am not sorry for anyone being ignorant,i am only sorry when someone is educated and act like ignorant. thanks gentleman's Diamondexpert (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)diamondexpertDiamondexpert (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * do not delete i will add new info today with references thanksDiamondexpert (talk) 06:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC)diamondexpertDiamondexpert (talk) 06:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs) 06:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete An ISBN number for this gentleman's book, "Diamond: The Myth & Truth" is listed in the article as "978-9957-8645-0-7". Good- this gives us something to search on.  Except the only places Google can find this ISBN is here, and in a very similar looking article on the Arabic Wikipedia .  Amazon doesn't recognize it, The Book Depository doesn't recognize it, and neither do a couple other smaller book sellers.  The notability of this gentleman is severely lacking independent of the books, and the books footprint doesn't help the article's case. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 03:48, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. First of all, Diamondexpert, you're not helping your cause by repeatedly posting the same thing below every comment. Second, there appears to be nothing verifiable, notable or encyclopaedic about this article or the gentleman who is its subject. HJMitchell    You rang?   07:56, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * do not delete thanks gentleman's for time and comments, i am writer and i search books , net , etc. for information if this book is not on amazon or whatever book saller sites, that's not prove book is not out there,i am sure there is thousands of books not on the net,i have 600 book in my library none of them on the net and the writers names not even known for anyone , before i write a word about him i optain original copy of ISBN registration.

'''THE HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN REFERENCE NO.IN DEPARTMENT OF THE NATIONAL LIBRARY (1381\5\2008) 553,8 MOHAMMED SAMI MOHAMMED ABUGOUSH THE STORY OF DIAMOND STONE ,THE MYTH & TRUTH AMMAN- AUTHOR 2008 DISCREPTION /DIAMOND/GEMSTONES 1381\5\2008.A.R.P ISBN 978-9957-8645-0-7 DEPARTMENT OF THE NATIONAL LIBRARY PREPARE INDEX AND CLASSIFICATION'''

if this gentlemen is not known in Canada, or china or whatever as you state((( nothing verifiable, notable or encyclopaedic about this article or the gentleman who is its subject)))thats why Wikipedia ask us to create article if its not there. its normal to hear about people for first time even if they are dead 1000 year ago or they still alive,there is lots of unknown people who give humanity something or they did something, if we are searching for references i am sure there is more than 100 about him but we just do couple of clicks and we call that search,i respect both opinion, but how many articles over wiki stating ( this article need references or editing ..etc) and finally your opinion still just opinion and i respect that the fact is there is some references and lots of information we can discuss in the main article, i am sure this article is more important than what we all think, time will prove that, just allow it to be for few month and we will see. allow me to give my respect and my regards to all.diamondexpert--Diamondexpert 10:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)--Diamondexpert 10:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondexpert (talk • contribs)
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