Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Molly Gray


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The result was delete. Ping for undelete if she wins in November. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Molly Gray

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not yet notable. She might be if she wins the election  DGG ( talk ) 00:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete/Move to draft This is WP:TOOSOON.--Olatunde Brain (talk) 01:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:NPOLITICIAN. Jmertel23 (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete fails NPOL unless she wins. Should not be moved to draftspace lest the space becomes a repository of failed candidates; see WP:POLOUTCOMES. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete unelected politicians are normally not notable. No sign that this individual is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep for now I think it makes sense to wait until after the election to decide if this page should be deleted. Plus, I think she's notable for having the highest fundraising total ever of any candidate for Lieutenant Governor of Vermont, in addition to being a local politician (I know that being an political official by itself is not grounds for notability!). Keep for now. Coffeespoons (talk) 22:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, obviously without prejudice against recreation in November if she wins. People do not get Wikipedia articles just for being election candidates per se — the notability test at WP:NPOL is holding a notable political office, not just running for one, and being a clearing house for information about current candidates is not our job. To already warrant an article today, she would have to demonstrate that either (a) she already had preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten her an article independently of her candidacy (the Cynthia Nixon test), or (b) she could be referenced to such an unusual depth, range and volume of press coverage that her candidacy could be credibly claimed as much more special than everybody else's candidacies in some way that would pass the ten year test for enduring significance (the Christine O'Donnell test). As for the fundraising claim, the source for that states only that she's the top fundraiser in the 2020 cycle, and does not claim that she has set the all-time fundraising record over the entire history of the office — so that doesn't pass the O'Donnell test. Obviously she'll get an article if she wins, since her notability claim will have changed from "candidate" to "officeholder", but nothing here is valid grounds for a Wikipedia article about her to already exist today. Bearcat (talk) 13:53, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Candidates for office are not notable per WP:NPOL. A plausible redirect target is 2020_Vermont_elections. --Enos733 (talk) 15:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mid-level civil servant running for notable office is not notable as a subject. If she wins and is elected Lieutenant Governor then obviously she will be.--Mpen320 (talk) 07:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to 2020 Vermont elections as proposed by . Candidates do not meet WP:NPOL. If she wins in November, we can re-assess. Article will need to be re-written however, because in its current form it is WP:PROMO. Bkissin (talk) 17:31, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


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