Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MonClaire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

MonClaire

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Non notable rapper who doesn’t satisfy WP:MUSICBIO & general notability guidelines as a BEFORE only shows him mentioned in passing. Which reads something like “Monclaire to release new track” but I can’t see in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of him. Celestina007 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 01:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I am unsure if one analyzes drafts the same way as a main article in AfD. Can someone confirm if this is the case? And perhaps link a policy page I can read? Ikjbagl (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This isn't a draft, so it's irrelevant. Praxidicae (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't a draft anymore, but it was when this was first posted to AfD, so I still would like to know the answer to the question in case it comes up again. Ikjbagl (talk) 16:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Check the article history--the article was created in draftspace, then moved to mainspace. The article was nominated for AfD whilst in mainspace, and the editor who made the move to mainspace "retreated" it back to draftspace minutes later.  An article which remains in draft could be nominated at Miscellany for deletion, but if this article had remained as a draft such a nomination a) would be unlikely to occur, and b) would have been judged far more leniently than a mainspace article if it had occurred.  --Finngall talk  17:26, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that is what I expected but I wanted confirmation. Ikjbagl (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


 * delete none of these sources are reliable and about half or more are "fake" and published by blackhat seo firms. Praxidicae (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable rapper.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Sources are blog posts, PR fluff, and other less than reliable sources. Article has been moved back to draftspace again, and a logged-out editor has been trying to scrub the AfD tag off of it.  --Finngall talk  22:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This article should not be taken down. The publications of the articles on this Wiki page show substantial evidence that this artist has created a significant amount of music that has made him notariable. The external links give access to this artists social medias were he has a huge following. The artist is also verified on Instagram which indicates that he is a legitimate act. The article could use some tweaking and a bit more information, but no reason to be deleted. GMorrale (talk) 14:26, 28 April 2020 (UTC) GMorrale
 * Creating music does not make you notable. Having a social media following does not make you notable. Being "instagram verified" is meaningless and does not make you notable. Having reliable, independent, published secondary sources that significantly cover you makes you notable.Ikjbagl (talk) 18:04, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete for failing notability guidelines as well detailed above. Shenanigans, such as removing the AfD template, brought me to this discussion. Ifnord (talk) 19:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:MUSICBIO. Antila333 (talk) 07:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.