Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monica Bertolotti


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  08:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Monica Bertolotti

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I've added one reference, but I really can't find quite enough independant and reliable sources to maintain notability claim. Some Italian speakers may be helpful. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 18:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women,  and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 18:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment In my opinion, article should not have been nominated for deletion. If you review her Italian Wikipedia page you will see her significant career as a voice actor that is one of notability criteria. ZanciD (talk) 18:43, 10 October 2022 (UTC) (sock strike Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC))
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete Lack of sources, socks aren't even really coming out to give their opinion, she isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 04:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources is required to demonstrate notability. Additionally, the article is not suitable to be on Wikipedia. Moresdi (talk) 14:35, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've checked some of the online Italian sources, and have translated what appears to be the most substantial write-up (link here). The article's title translates to Who is the Italian voice-actress who dubs Anne Hathaway, in the film Valentine's Day (2010). ("Valentine's Day" is translated to "Appointment with Love".) Please note that, although I am an Italian speaker, I am not a qualified translator, and this translation is mine only, and may contain errors. I've translated the opening line of the article, and then skipped ahead to the second paragraph, because the first paragraph is solely about Anne Hathaway.
 * In "Valentine's Day" (2010), Anne Hathaway has the voice of an Italian voice-actress who is used to playing roles similar to this character... In the Italian version [of the film], Hathaway takes the voice of Monica Bertolotti, a voice-actress who has worked in numerous Italian adaptations of foreign films, among which are "American Pie" and its sequels, "The Last King of Scotland", "The Legend of 1900", "The Terminal", "Space Jam", "Lion King 2" and "The Powerpuff Girls". For this part, the impression of the voice-actor is particularly important given that the main character uses her voice to elicit pleasure. It's not the first time Bertolotti has worked on a film and in a role where sexuality is central, the voice-actress has in fact worked in the Italian version of "Sex and Lucia" (2001).
 * Aside from this article, the subject is mentioned in other articles, as well as simply being listed in credits listings in numerous other articles and Google Books, and from the Italian Wikipedia page, it certainly appears that she has worked prolifically as a voice-over artist. However, another question to be considered (although perhaps less relevant) is—is there any utility in having an English Wikipedia page if there is already an Italian one? Certainly for famous Italians (indeed, famous people in any country where English isn't the main language) there is no question that having a second Wikipedia page, in English, is justified—but is this such a case? Dflaw4 (talk) 15:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete No significant coverage found after a search. TV Tropes is the article's only citation and is not a viable source. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  15:46, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


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