Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monster (Oomph! album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Oomph!. Liz Read! Talk! 06:16, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Monster (Oomph! album)

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Nothing on page to clear notability and all I could find was this charting in a few countries. That alone certainly doesn't convince me. QuietHere (talk) 10:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: So, considering a Delete, Keep, Merge or Redirect here? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Germany. QuietHere (talk) 10:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Probably keep - I'm not a big defender of album articles in general, but that said: on the subject of charts it's not a matter of opinion; WP:NALBUM states: "a recording may be notable if it meets at least one of these criteria:... 2. The recording has appeared on any country's national music chart." So, I think the issue here is that while a chart appearance is implied obliquely in the article, this needs to be documented better. There's also the Alien vs. Predator angle which touches on "5. The recording was performed in a medium that is notable..." In my mind the decision rests on whether this stub, when expanded, will more strongly reflect some of these notability criteria. -- t_kiehne (talk) 18:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair points, but I would be much more amenable to this if there was any SIGCOV available, and as far as I saw there isn't. I don't feel comfortable leaving an article around where three of the four sources are from the band's own website and the fourth only shows one single charting (not even the album itself; WP:NOTINHERITED). It's just not a good look, y'know? QuietHere (talk) 16:47, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually the Alien vs. Predator bit is also about a single and thusly also WP:NOTINHERITED, silly me for not realising that before. That still just leaves us with the charting and even if it is in three different countries I still don't think that alone in enough for a keep. QuietHere (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * All good points, and, again, I'm not a big fan of album articles except in certain cases. If the evidence doesn't bear out for a separate article, I'd at least want to be sure the prose of this article is reflected in the main artist article, so merge would be my vote. -- t_kiehne (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Understandable, I would be fine with that outcome as well. QuietHere (talk) 16:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tkiehne actually, most of what's on the album page is already on either Oomph! or Oomph! discography so there's not much point in a merge vote. The one thing I can see that was missing was the cover art contest but I just added that. I don't think there's anything else that needs saving. QuietHere (talk) 16:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I realise I forgot to write it above but I would definitely support a redirect to Oomph!. QuietHere (talk) 16:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * To be perfectly clear, as stated above, my vote is to redirect to Oomph!. Tkiehne's appears to be either keep or merge (though I disagree more with the merge since the information is already there, against as I stated above). QuietHere (talk) 22:49, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect – I've reviewed the content and agree that we can redirect. -- t_kiehne (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.