Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montana Justice Foundation (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 16:34, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Montana Justice Foundation
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I believe there needs to be further attention since the 2010 AfD as none of this suggests a better improvable and also independently notable article apart from being connected to the State Bar of Montana. My searches found nothing noticeably better and my PROD, until I noticed the 1st AfD, was: "Non-notable group part of the State Bar of Montana with my searches finding nothing better at all and none of the current article suggests an independently notable article.". SwisterTwister  talk  06:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  06:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  06:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Montana-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  06:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or merge: This is an independent 501(c)(3) organization separate from the State Bar, though with some affiliation.  (Full disclosure:  I am a member of the State Bar of Montana and am involved with activities that received funds from MJF so I have a COI as to this article).  I'd ask that if the Afd succeeds that the article be merged with a redirect kept to preserve links.   Montanabw (talk)  09:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:32, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per WP:ORGDEPTH this should have been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. From scanning news articles, I only see it mentioned briefly in passing, in connection with other topics. There is no in depth coverage of the organization itself. Similarly in books. Merging it into a small amount of text in the state bar article and keeping a redirect might be an option, I don't have much of an opinion on that at the moment. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * To consider:, which of note includes , and . As stated, I have a COI on this issue because I am involved with a group that gets MJF funding. But if you are looking for source material, it will be in the Montana press on groups that are funded by the organization.  I would not object to a merge to State Bar of Montana, but could someone please userfy the content as a subpage of my talk or something if the consensus does go "delete" -- If no one else merges, I don't want to have to recreate it all.    Montanabw (talk)  10:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Charitable nonprofit organization in existence since 1979. State wide organization. I agree with rationale by above, as well as from those at prior failed deletion attempt at Articles for deletion/Montana Justice Foundation including especially comments by, , and , all of whom provided useful sources at the failed attempt at deletion Articles for deletion/Montana Justice Foundation. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm going to reiterate my Keep !vote from the prior AFD. I do wish something more was done with the references that that AFD unearthed, instead of just nonspecifically slapping some of them into the "References" section rather than using them as footnotes to specifically point out what materials is supported by what source. But that's an issue for cleanup, not deletion. TJRC (talk) 22:23, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Another recent source: "LINDEEN TO ANNOUNCE SETTLEMENT IN $455 MILLION CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OVER $1.2 MILLION WILL BE DONATED TO THE MONTANA JUSTICE FOUNDATION." States News Service 18 Sept. 2012. Academic OneFile. Web. 10 Mar. 2016 --Mike Cline (talk) 22:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)


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