Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monte Plaisance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:08, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Monte Plaisance

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Although this article was accepted at AfC I do not think anything here amounts to notability. Essentially everything is unsourced with the only outside sourcing being the ACLU section.  DGG ( talk ) 06:00, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. Outside sourcing includes more than the ACLU section. The Witchcraft Museum is sourced to viable and reputable sources newspaper and online sources, the early life section is sourced to legitimate magazine articles and the rest is sourced to Plaisance's own written books and online forums, all of which are reputable. JAuthement (talk) 14:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * His books and forums are not reliable to our standards. -- No  unique  names  19:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:GNG, but pare it back severely if RS cannot be found for the majority of the text. -- No  unique  names  19:11, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:BK.  The bulk of it appears sourced, but the sourcing is thin and false, with instances of WP:SELFCITE. Qworty (talk) 01:10, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete I see two paths to notability but neither are strong enough.
 * 1. ALCU lawsuit. This has a number of very good sources. However it's a single event (WP:1E) so we need reliable sourcing for something else..
 * 2. Notable in the Wiccan community. According to the Gale Encyclopedia of the Unusual and Unexplained (2003), under the entry for "People of Wicca" (pg. 75), under the sub-heading for "Raymond Buckland", Plaisance is mentioned in passing because Buckland sold a New Orleans Wicca museum to Plaisance. And that's it. There are similar brief mentions in local newspapers as the owner of the museum. But owning a museum is not enough. I can't find other sources about Plaisance that show notability, or provide information to write an article with (can't use material written by Plaisance since Wikipedia relies on independent secondary sourcing). -- Green Cardamom (talk) 02:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.