Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Montrose Star


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Houston Voice. The consensus here is that the publication is notable but should exist under the title of Houston Voice. I have performed a history merge to repair the cut-paste creation of Houston Voice. Mkativerata (talk) 04:55, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Montrose Star

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Non-notable, does not meet WP:NMEDIA, Google News and Books hits are just mentions in passing. TransporterMan ( TALK ) 14:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Though not directly relevant, also see Dispute_resolution_noticeboard and related AfD discussion at Articles for deletion/The Houston Progressive Voice. — TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 14:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, due to lack of substantial mentions on Google News or Google Books. I note, however, that this publication has an apparently long history - since the 1970s - and I will be happy to change my recommendation if earlier sources can be found which haven't yet made their way online. —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 14:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Change my !vote to keep, per the sources Arxiloxos found for the publication when it was the Houston Voice. I would also agree to have Houston Voice as the name of the article, as that seems to be the most common name for it in the sources. —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 08:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Partial Save, Houston Voice which is referenced in several article on Wikipedia should be redirected to The Houston Progressive Voice Both Montrose Star should remain (even as stubs) since they are the only 2 GLBT Newspapers to have ever existed in Houston, Tx. — ShreveNewsMan unsigned comment added by
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:41, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Historically significant as an early gay-oriented paper, as confirmed here and here.  Many more references to it under its later name Houston Voice, including examples of it serving as a source for other notable publications as well as coverage of the paper's closing in 2009 as part of the failure of Window Media.  Thus, passes WP:NMEDIA under "significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets".  Possibly, Houston Voice should be the primary title of the article with Montrose Star as a redirect.  --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, noteworthy publication with coverage in reliable secondary sources. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator on condition that article is moved to "Houston Voice", for reasons stated by Arxiloxos. — TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 14:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest merging them all, then changing the main article to the Houston Voice the Houston Voice is main most notable paper here. It was around for over 20 years, the Montrose Star was only from 1974 to 1978 then 2009 to present. Montrose Ste should redirect to Houston Voice, and just redirect The Houston Progressive Voice to Houston Voice as well.


 * 'FYI The US Library of Congress just assigned the The Houston Progressive Voice the ISSN's (Print) ISSN 2164-9243 and (Online) ISSN 2164-9251.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.63.94 (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - As reliable sources have been found which establish notability. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:16, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * FYI - Laura Villagran, Lvillagrantx the owner of the Montrose Star keeps making all these changes. She needs to be blocked from making changes on this page. ShreveNewsMan (talk) 20:23, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - It appears that someone created Houston Voice a few days ago and copied and pasted the content of this article into it, modifying it slightly. So, when this AfD closes, something needs to be done with one of the identical articles.  A history merge might be required.  Also, note that there is an AfD tag on both articles pointing to this AfD.  &mdash;SW&mdash; prattle 15:19, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Houston Voice where the historical progression of names is captured already. Redirect The Houston Progressive Voice to Houston Voice as the most known name. Keep Houston Voice. I do think that the pub is notable, but separate articles are not needed. If we conclude that the present version of the Montrose Star is a separate newspaper, I do not think that it is independently notable, Library of Congress recognition or not. Identical entry made to other AfdXymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  19:25, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Houston Voice, Redirect The Houston Progressive Voice to Houston Voice, and Keep Houston Voice, per Xymmax's reasoning. --DGaw (talk) 01:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.