Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moreno Valley Mall


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The result was: Speedily deleted under WP:CSD A1. - C HAIRBOY (☎) 16:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Moreno Valley Mall

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Very short, barely even stub article on a mall in California. A search online turned up no reliable soures, which actually seems unusual for a center of its size. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 00:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions.    Ten Pound Hammer  • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 00:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article has been a stub since February 2005. If there were indeed anything notable about the the mall, then it ought to have been added by now. And as it's only a very short stub anyway, it can very easily be rewritten and expanded on by any editor with the inclination to make a case for the notability of this mall. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 00:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Yep, this mall exists (I live in Moreno Valley). But how would you make an article out of a mall?  I'd like to know this.  Right now, my vote's a "weak delete" mainly because there are other malls with articles and I guess that's why this one got made, but I'm not sure how any mall merits an article. JuJube (talk) 07:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete But JuJube, I have to say -- there's a science behind malls, with a lot of money at stake, and some properties like Westfield Horton Plaza are important from that standpoint, not to mention the value of Mall of America just as obscene spectacle.  --Lockley (talk) 10:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V and WP:NOTE. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 19:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Super regional (>1M sq.ft) with the unusual fact that on duty police officers provide security services, not a 'for hire' service, which is the norm. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  05:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Exit2DOS, I see no harm in the retention of this article. RFerreira (talk) 05:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep notable as a super-regional mall with an unusual backstory. (jarbarf) (talk) 05:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


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