Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moreton Bay Symphony Orchestra (MBSO)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. There doesn't seem to be a consensus either way about whether the sources in the article are sufficient for GNG, although there are more editors arguing that they are then aren't. Hopefully additional sources can be found that will push this beyond doubt. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Moreton Bay Symphony Orchestra (MBSO)

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fails WP:BAND and WP:GNG. created by a single purpose editor and sources provided are primary or very local. also nothing in gnews LibStar (talk) 07:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Just. The Quest Community Newspapers sources would appear to satisfy WP:GNG - although the tag re WP:COI is valid. The article could be improved a lot. isfutile:P (talk) 16:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I agree with isfutile:P on all points. Am going to add a refimprove tag (probably convert to a multiple-issues tag). - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 17:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Coverage is limited to minor local interest pieces. Not what I call sugnificant. Nothing they have done appears particularly noteworthy. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - isfutile:P's points are very valid. The article clearly needs help – editors, sources, and development. Moreton Bay Region, the local government in the symphony's area is the third largest local government in Australia, reportedly serving 350,000+ people. "Minor local interest" and "Not ... significant" may reflect a metropolitan POV. SBaker43 (talk) 03:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope not metropolitan. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The Quest Community Newspapers sources do not satisfy GNG. The two articles are both from the one source, not multiple sources. The "Idol star helps bring seaside festival back" article is not coverage of MSBO, it doesn't even mention them, it just verifies info about the Christmas by the Sea festival. So that leave one source that covers them. That source, "Orchestrating fresh talent", is a call for musicians. Starts "TALENTED musicians are being called on to take part in the Moreton Bay Symphony Orchestra's (MBSO) new youth symphony starting next year. Auditions are being held on December 10 and musical director Bronwyn Gibbs said she had always believed in the importance of community orchestras". Not significant independent coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I accepted the article and viewed it to pass the notability guidelines five months ago. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:58, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, almost every editor who edits AFC is a single-purpose editor, as they are editting an article for the first time. That is a incredibly bad reason to AFD an article with that as a co-reason, as it holds no weight when you consider the facts. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 06:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSNOTABLE. In what way does it pass the notability guidelines? The version you accepted had a total of one independent source and had no sign of anything satisfying WP:MUSIC. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Coverage is limited to relatively obscure publications. Can't find any better sources. Which suggests the group has not been the subject of multiple, non-trivial works by third parties. Per the WP:GNG. Pol430  talk to me 18:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.