Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morlun


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Morlun
An article which is based on a non-notable comic character which has no real world significance and no reliable sources. It is written completely in-universe style, unencyclopedic, it fails WP:FICT. Blueanode (talk) 18:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom (or reduce to a stub). Articles on comic book characters aren't exempt from the basic pillars of Wikipedia any more than any other article, and this one fails several of them. Terraxos (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Although there are a lot of non-notable comic character articles, Morlun was a fairly significant character in Spider-Man during JMS's tenure. It could use a bit of clean-up (it wouldn't be too hard to make a section detailing criticism and reception from reviews) but I don't agree with deletion just yet. (BTW, I noticed how none of the contributors to the article have been notified about this.)--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, turns out one user was notified by a bot. Fair is fair.--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is also fair to note that the whole point of watchlists is for people to watch articles of interest to them. It's a bit much to require an AfDer to notify everyone who has contributed to an article, and a bit odd to bring this up (especially inaccurately) on the AfD page. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but as it says, "While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the articles that you are nominating for deletion." It took me all of five seconds to notify two users involved in the article. At the very least the creator of the article should be notified. (BTW, I don't see how I was inaccurate in pointing it out; I saw that the the nominator didn't notify anyone, and upon checking what links to this page, saw that only a bot had notified a user.)--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   —User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, most of the problems identified in the nomination can be solved via our editing policy rather than our deletion policy. Since WP:FICT is not a test, nor is it a policy, it isn't the be all and end all of this debate, which should be closed in line with the consensus generated, with respect to policy. I suggest interested parties look for independent sourcing from which to add real world content. Hiding T 13:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Hiding's reasoning, or at least Redirect into an appropriate article, say Ezekiel (comics). BOZ (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Although the article needs to be modified to have an out-of-universe perspective, I believe this character to be notable. "The Other" storyline generated a lot of buzz and it shouldn't be that hard to find reliable sources to add to the article. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 02:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * keep per the ratinale of User:Hiding, character reflects a key transition in the 21st century represention of Spider-Man (particularly the Other storyline). -66.109.248.114 (talk) 02:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Keep the character is notable to the Spider-Man universe. I agree it needs editing though. --Maestro25 (talk) 08:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.