Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mormon Murderers


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The result was Delete.  JGHowes   talk  21:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Mormon Murderers

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Not a coherent list, no references. Naraht (talk) 21:28, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete three items, one a redlink = not a list. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:02, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete while WP:SALAT gives broad leeway on what stand-alone lists are appropriate for the encyclopedia, I think that listing people by their religious affiliation and whether or not they've murdered someone is opening the encyclopedia to WP:BLP issues and is basically unencyclopedic. Quickly searching, I wasn't able to find any analagous articles, List of Jewish murderers, List of Catholic murderers, List of Muslim murderers are all redlinks. Also surprisingly few similar AfDs, with Articles for deletion/List of Jewish criminals being the only one I can find (and being from long ago). Either way, I don't think lists of this format should be kept (although if it is kept, it should be moved to List of Mormon murderers). Ajpolino (talk) 23:06, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Yet another poorly supported intersection of criminals with their reputed religious faith. Of the three entries on the list there are Ted Bundy (a tenuous link based on happenstance of birth), Mark Hoffman (legitimate LDS scandal) and a non-biography that does not even mention LDS. A search may bring up other notable murderers from the American Southwest, but does this intersection define anything? • Gene93k (talk) 03:21, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I linked the brothers to Utah v. Lafferty, the other choice is the book about the brothers, Under the Banner of Heaven which clearly talks about them being part of a fundamentalist branch of LDS, perhaps that would be better. So, the last one is *somewhat* connected. And Bundy was baptised LDS at almost age 30, I don't see any relationship with his family as being the reason.Naraht (talk) 04:05, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Under the Banner of Heaven is a biased, anti-religious book that has been picked apart as problematic in many, many ways. To build an article around its false narrative is horrendous.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:09, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The article also incoherently groups together people from what are actually very different religious traditions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:07, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per above arguments. Rollidan (talk) 18:49, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete No reliable source. Barca (talk) 01:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


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