Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mormonism and Islam


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 16:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Mormonism and Islam

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A comparison between Mormonism and Islam? I can't see this being a useful article. Obviously two religions that sprung from the same (general) roots are going to have some similarities, but I can't see this being a useful article.

Things like "In Islam, several hadith stress the importance of keeping family relations alive and recommend that even distant relations are to be visited, even if would take a year to travel to them." and "Mormons also stress the importance of family relations as the day of Sabbath for Latter-day Saints is as a day of rest from worldly concerns and endeavors and to concentrate on spiritual matters and family activities." are hardly useful. I can't find evidence of mormon-muslim similarities being covered by journals, academics or the media, and the only references come from explanations about what mormons do, or what muslims do, never what muslims do COMPARED TO what mormons do. Ironholds (talk) 01:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the nominator. This is an original research essay, not an encyclopedia article. Although well done and informative, it does not belong on WP. Borock (talk) 04:09, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete I respectfully disagree.  How is it that this article "can't see this being useful" ? Quoting two sentences from the entire article and then concluding that the article is not "useful" is not a persuasive reason why this article has to be deleted.  Run a simple search on the internet concerning Mormonism and Islam, and you'll notice the numerous scholarly articles written on the matter. Finally, if one were acknowledge that there is basis for deleting this article, then one could contend that the Mormonism and Judaism article should be deleted as well.  Scythian1 (talk) 04:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

For those looking for scholarly/academic writings on the matter, here are some external links:   Scythian1 (talk) 04:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that the article might be useful, however it doesn't have any references to secondary sources discussing its topic and therefore doesn't belong on WP. The other article you mentioned does. Borock (talk) 04:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I can alleviate this by adding references and/or links from academic sources. Scythian1 (talk) 05:20, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Per sources identified by Scythian. Google Book Search also shows, , , , , , , , , , , , , and many more. The two were linked in an unfavorable way by late 19th and early 20th century American protestant writers, who called Mormonism "the Islam of America". Scholarly comparisons continue to the present, however, such as and . The scholarship includes Mormon writers. Numerous books have noted similarities between the two religions not seen in comparing, say Presbyterians and Islam or other random combinations of other faiths with one of the two. Edison (talk) 14:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - this article seems inline with the related articles Mormonism and Christianity and Mormonism and Judaism. -- 71.223.123.112 (talk) 02:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Though there is far more reason for articles such as Mormonism and Christianity or Mormonism and Judaism, this article does appear to have merit. I don't think having the article abuses Wikipedia or misplaces more important articles; God forbid we not have another one of the highly important cartoon character articles because reality displaces it. Anti-Mormons to this day enjoy comparing Mormonism to Islam when trying to prove that Mormonism is not Christian. Given the number of list articles, cartoon character articles, school articles, etc., this one appears to be of higher value. -- Storm  Rider  07:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Reviewed the posted references, there are enough 3rd party resources to justify an article. Comparisons made quoting beliefs of different religions need to be redone to quote the scholarly article so that the wikipedia article loses its original research/essay tone. -- Trödel 16:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep the article, but delete several sections: "Family relations", " Polygamy", "Proselytizing", "Idols", "Washing", "Dietary Rules and alcohol" - these sections amount to a list of coincidental similarities between the religions. There's no evidence given that these similarities have any common basis, any reciprocal recognition, or other relationship other than coincidence. Those sections might be improvable to where they could be kept, but as they are now, it just looks like "this is what Muslims believe, and this is what Mormons believe, how 'bout that?" Smells like synthesis to me. –  j ak s mata  19:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The bit about what Mormons think of Muhammad and what Muslims think about Jesus is really the only well-sourced part. It's incomplete, though: it says nothing about what Muslims think of other Mormon prophets. Muslims do think of Mormons as People of the Book along with the rest of Christianity, don't they? –  j ak s mata  19:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.