Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morningside (2024 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ as WP:ATD. Consensus is clear that the sources do not currently support notability; however, participants expect more coverage to emerge soon. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 03:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Morningside (2024 film)

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Article about an as yet unreleased film, not demonstrated as the subject of nearly enough production coverage to be exempted from the primary notability criteria for films. As always, the main notability criteria for films hinge on the film having been released to the public, and require things like film reviews by professional film critics, noteworthy film awards, and other markers of permanent significance like that — some leeway is given to films still in the pipeline if they have a lot of production coverage, but we don't just immediately accept an article about every film that enters the production pipeline off just one hit of coverage. Films have been known to enter the production pipeline and then never come out the other end as a finished film for various reasons, so a film still in the production process requires a lot more than just one hit of verification that it exists as an unfinished project. According to the only reliable source cited here, however, the film only just started shooting in December 2023, so we're at best months away from any potential release date — and the only other footnote that was being used here (which I've had to strip) was an alumni interview with a supporting cast member on the self-published website of his own alma mater, which is not a reliable, independent or notability-building source at all. So no prejudice against recreation later in the year if and when it actually comes out and starts getting more coverage than this, but one media hit is not enough all by itself to make a film that's still in the production process permanently notable this far in advance of release. Bearcat (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aoidh (talk) 04:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Can't see any notable coverage about the film or the production of it either. Could WP:DRAFTIFY it (allowing the article to be updated with notable coverage if/when any does arrive), but, as it stands, definitely fails WP:NFF. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 11:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand. I've tracked this movie before where it was in the Hollywood Reporter.
 * https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/fefe-dobson-danzig-gang-shooting-drama-1235275512/
 * It was previously known as danzig but had changed to Morningside. There was also been a few coverages
 * talking about it here as well:
 * https://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=2535086&jwsource=cl
 * https://www.breakfasttelevision.ca/videos/toronto-film-bite-of-a-mango-premieres-in-home-city/
 * https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2082441795998 SunjayDash (talk) 01:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Draft: is fine with me, possibly more coverage coming in the near future. Oaktree b (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * WeakDelete or Draftify. Looks likely to be notable upon release and has sources confirming that principle photography has begun so the question is whether sources covering the production itself are sufficient to support an article.  In my opinion, there isn't quite enough now but there might be more soon.  This is the kind of article that WP:NFILM encourages people not to create because they are likely to get deleted and then recreated after release which is more work for everyone.  But encouraging the creation of articles a fair percentage of which will end up as non-notable perma-stubs isarguably even worse.  Eluchil404 (talk) 23:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.