Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morris Peterson

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Joyous 00:37, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)

Morris Peterson
Fascinating as this article is, it gives no context and little content. "Wikipedia is not a general knowledge base" (what wikipedia is not). The stats may be true, but that doesn't make them encyclopedia, certainly not in the context of this article. Smoddy | Talk 00:15, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. After some brief googling, I didn't find anything that would distinguish this player to a sufficient extent to warrant an encyclopedic entry. --RidG | Talk 00:59, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. Megan1967 01:09, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, there are many articles in Wikipedia about sportspeople of a similar standing in both basketball and other sports. This article has improved since it was nominated for deletion, and as it stands doesn't break any of the current deletion policies. (I have restored the VfD tag on the article, it was removed by User:Boothy443) Rje 01:18, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep concur with Rje. Kappa 01:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn (I'll be outvoted if enough people think any professional basketball player in the US should have an article here). Wyss 01:29, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Tentative Keep. It may not be logical, but there seems to be wide precedent that all professional athletes are fit subjects for Wikipedia biographies. Certainly, we have many articles on professional rugby and football players on obscure English teams. I think this is too bad, but since the inclusion/deletion criteria are pretty vague, precedent is all we have to go by. --BM 02:10, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * keep. The original vfd was for "dirty" article, which looked suspicious. People with "spectacular" ocupations are "notable" according to wikipedia criterion: there is high probability that the info about them will be sought for, however lousy ball players they are. This is not fair with respect to other decent people, but... Mikkalai 02:19, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not just an average BB player--frequent starter in the pros, and on some all-time top-ten MSU stat lists from his collegiate career. Article as tagged was a mess and didn't establish notability, but re-write is better. Niteowlneils 02:28, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep. Mikkalai, "other decent people" presumably only have to meet the same bar and you can write about them too.Dr Zen 02:40, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. JuntungWu 02:56, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely. He's a player in an elite professional league! --LeeHunter 04:02, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep agree with Niteowlneils, sorry about the VfD removal. --Boothy443 04:20, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Abstain: I thoroughly disagree with the supposition that any NBA player is automatically notable, or that any MLB player is, etc.  These athletes need to be stand-outs on their teams and/or appear outside of their team.  Geogre 04:25, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep - the rewrite is good enough. I listed the page as it was a repository of statistics, not an article.  Smoddy | Talk 11:25, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Merely being signed to a professional team means nothing - they have to show that they can achieve at that level to be worthy of inclusion. Four years as a starting player for a team in a major league is what I personally feel is the minimum required in terms of duration, and from comments above it would appear that he has achieved that. Average Earthman 11:42, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep with the new edits. GRider\talk 17:46, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep as re-written. Jayjg |  (Talk)  21:02, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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