Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morse code in popular culture


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep with major revision. It is difficult to discern consensus elements among the responses. Many of the requests to delete are based on general opposition to this class of article. In order to satisfy most of the people most of the time, here is what I suggest: the article should be whittled down to instances where the use of Morse Code is a major plot element which can be supported by a secondary source citation, which would in most cases apply to instances of literature (movies, novels, etc.). For instance, the Rudyard Kipling book A Code of Morals and the use in the film Independence Day are good examples of this; the vast majority of other references are trivial. The same holds true for music (songs, themes, etc.), except in this case the vast majority are trivial references. What to do with the material to be excised? I was thinking that category usage might be appropriate ... but I'm concerned that such categories would appear for deletion based on the same argument as was used to bring this article up for deletion. Perhaps a template so that all instances of use can be identified via what-links-here? Whatever the fate of the 'trivial' content, the fate of the 'notable' content is to retain in this article (name changes and mergers might take place later and are not disallowed by this decision). --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 17:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * DRV overturned the original closure of this AfD to outright delete. Xoloz 19:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Morse code in popular culture

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Again, Wikipedia is not a place to throw a trivia collection list like that. Delete per trivia cruft--JForget 23:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, trivial mentions of Morse code with no deeper understanding of cultural references. --Eyrian 23:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete trivia `'Míkka 23:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Culturecruft, yet again. Realkyhick 00:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - trivial collection of loosely connected items. --Haemo 01:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, as I think maybe some of those trivia bits could use a mention on the morse code article, to demonstrate that morse code has had a notable impact on popular culture. Iotha 01:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Apparently, there are a lot of hidden messages in movies, and these are known only to persons who know Morse Code. I'd like to see some sourcing for this, however... _ _ _ ...  Mandsford 01:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Slight merge, then redirect. There are at least a few bits of trivia here which are undeniably notable, and which could be easily integrated into the main article. For example, the use of Beethoven's 5th in World War II radio transmissions by the BBC is definitely notable; Nokia's use of Morse "SMS" in various ringtones should also probably be mentioned either here or elsewhere. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 02:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete purely a cite list of the in-universe folks; I'm only surprised that no one thought to throw in every redo of Beethoven's 5th, which echos Morse letter "V" (as in Roman 5) ...- (as in dum-dum-dum-DUM), which apparently was Morse's source for his choice of encoding. Carlossuarez46 03:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and Rename to something more appropriate. This isn't an IPC article, it's mostly a list of Morse messages appearing in notable works. We have a list of List of backmasked messages, this is a similar list. Needs sourcing though. Crazysuit 05:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Why not use of computers in popular culture, or usage of telephones in popular culture?  This is a trivial list  (WP:5) Corpx 05:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe it should be merged into Morse code or into List of backmasked messages Use of telephones in popular culture is reserved for a list to be written in 2057, computers IPC in 2107. Mandsford 12:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep though I am not sure what to title it (most are not backmasked) It is not like the other ...IPC articles, there are no major works where it forms the major plot element or theme (though Im glad someone else remembers A Code of Morals). I thank Corpx for other suggested articles, but this is a much more manageable topic. DGG (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all %SUBJECT% in popular culture lists, they are nothing but trivia and violate the five pillars of Wikipedia as well. Burntsauce 18:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - another compilation of loosely associated topics. Otto4711 16:54, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.