Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mort Fertel (2nd nomination)


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The result was   Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Mort Fertel
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PROD removed (procedurally?). Concern was: Appears to fail WP:AUTHOR; article created almost entirely by Expewikiwriter (since banned for apparent promotional editing); page was previously deleted at AfD. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm hedging a bet of a G4 on this one. Speedy Delete G4 (repost of previously deleted material); so tagged. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 01:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, procedurally, of course. You can't reprod (see red notice) something that has already been to AfD ("An article may be PRODed only once".) Speedy is OK though. Valfontis (talk) 02:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Not quite a G4 in my opinion - similar in some ways but not identical. To be in the "100 best-selling self-help books in Amazon’s “Happiness” category" doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm. Self-published through his own company. Of the references that I can access, only the Baltimore Sun one seems to be anywhere near to an RS, and does give some background to his getting into this field. (The others are by Fertel, or otherwise promotional, or mere mentions/quotes.) Peridon (talk) 11:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:AUTHOR as well as WP:BASIC. Lacks depth of coverage in multiple, independent sources that are not blogs or PR blurbs. Most citations are about his program, not about him. I'm wondering if we shouldn't WP:SALT this one (and possibly Marriage Fitness) as well. If he achieves genuine notability the article can be recreated by someone not in his camp. Valfontis (talk) 17:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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