Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mortimer Gerald Bredon Wimsey, 15th Duke of Denver


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tim Song (talk) 02:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Mortimer Gerald Bredon Wimsey, 15th Duke of Denver

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The fictional father of a fictional character (Lord Peter Wimsey); M.G.B. Wimsey is not a character in the Lord Peter Wimsey stories at all, let alone a minor character (he's been dead for some 12 years before the first story begins). No real-world coverage and no importance within the work of fiction. Non-notable per WP:FICT. +Angr 18:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  +Angr 18:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose on the ground that he does have real-world coverage; indeed the entire Wimsey family has its own version of the Baker Street Irregulars (differing chiefly in that Sayers, unlike Doyle, got to play herself); see the indicated sources. It may be worth possibly merging this into the overall article on the Duke of Denver, but it would form an awkward expository lump - which is why this is a separate article to begin with. In any case, do not delete; if there be consensus that it does not belong in article space by itself, merge or userify. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  14:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: see also Articles for deletion/Thomas George Churchill Wimsey, 10th Duke of Denver for a similar character. +Angr 21:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This is essentially fanfic. The 16th Duke is worth an article, as a significant character is a very important series of books, and the central figure of one of them. His ancestors, who ,ay be mentioned in the canon but are dead before the first of the novels starts in the early 1920s, are quite another matter. Any discussion of this in WP would belong in the article on Farmer's ingenious extrapolation Wold Newton Family. Some of this material could be moved there.    DGG ( talk ) 23:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No, in fact, this particular riff, by a notable herald and the author of the series, began well before Farmer's writing career. The fact that there have been two distinct reconstructions of this Wimsey is what makes it notable. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete for same reasons as Articles for deletion/Thomas George Churchill Wimsey, 10th Duke of Denver. Novaseminary (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Mergre With the page avbout the 16th Duke. Amny usefull information (not OR$) can be put there.Slatersteven (talk) 16:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per User:DGG. I'm a fan of the series, but a separate article about a character who doesn't actually appear in the Sayers books is beyond any utility.  Accounting4Taste: talk 15:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.