Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosca (The Godfather)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to The Godfather. Spartaz Humbug! 04:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Mosca (The Godfather)

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A not of note rememborable character in the series, un sourced and unreferenced.  Rusted AutoParts  (talk) 14:42 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand and reference better Important in the book and in the movie series. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:12, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)



 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

* Sad. I just happened to stumble on this article because the Godfather films were on UK TV over Christmas. Seeing that this article needs to deleted only helps reinforce my belief that this Wikipedia is run/managed/manipulated by people who are more concerned about rules than actually providing a useful legacy for future generations. This article is all about a fictional character in a fictional film all it does is flesh out their role. Why does it need to be deleted? What bad is it doing? It's reference is the plot of the film. Or should all plots be referenced (i.e. running time, when something important happens)? The person above who wants this deleted is not interested in giving people like me something interesting to read, they are only interested in acquiring a sense of self importance from throwing around their weight and using the rules to gain victories on this site. Therefore why not just delete everything and be done with it? Everything on this Wikipedia comes down to the crux of WP:IDL (a rule I found out when another know-it-all user objected to a point I made but then contradicted themselves by doing what they liked!) I have no idea what harm this article does, it's factually correct, it's not libellous or contentious? It's just collated everything that is known about a fictional character who appears in the Godfather universe. You know, the way that Wikipedia has developed and has become such a place of self serving vitriol only makes me think of its similarity to religion. They all promise love, hope and happiness yet they all end up being taken over by bad-minded people who use the systems to feed their own narcissistic personalities. Too many editors on this site are more interested in using rules to win than making contributions to the greater good. Thus a nondescript page on a minor fictional character has to be deleted? Why? Because it's an easy victory for those who want to acquire kudos for themselves not provide free information to the masses. Using the logic here, salt needs a reference to be "salty" and water needs a reference because sometimes it's "wet"! A fictional killer in a fictional film does not exist until a source somewhere says that? I don't think that the was the idea of these rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.107.138 (talk) 14:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. The whole article is in-universe plot. I can find no reliable sources discussing the character (even when using his full name). Everything I get from Google is user-generated content of some form or another (often WP mirrors). Doesn't show up in GBooks or GNews. If he truly is important in the book and movie series then there should be something somewhere, and I can't find anything anywhere. » scoops “ 5x5  „ 16:35, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


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 * Redirect to The Godfather. As a unique search term, and even though the character does not seem to merit an individual article, we might at least send readers to the place where the character has sourcable context.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed.  Rusted AutoParts  (talk) 18:32 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.