Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moses Golola


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  23:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Moses Golola

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Kickboxer who fails WP:KICK. Mdtemp (talk) 16:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 17:32, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep:A pioneer of his disipline in his home country, responsible for growing the popularity of his sport at home. The top kickboxer in his nation, and a regional champion of Africa. A quick google search shows multiple articles in English, from various sources online, detailing and tracking his accomplishments - this, coming from a small country that doesn't necessarily have a large online presence - a testament to his popularity in his native land. Sees that his activities are detailed by multiple online newspapers in Uganda. While not an internationally famous fight, this fighter is clearly a celebrity and heavily followed in his home country. Is clearly successful enough to make lots of money in his sport . Inspires enough fan passion to receive this letter to the editor in a local newspaper Quotations listed on wikiquotes. More than enough to verify notability.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.193.40.25 (talk) 00:47, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with 123.193.40.25. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Yet we have only a 2 line stub which covers none of this. With only WP:KICK to go by he doesn't pass and listing references here wont make the case.  As the article stands now it is not notable - he may pass WP:GNG but not right now.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Article has been expanded but I am neutral (sitting on fence) as to whether WP:GNG has been met.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:26, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "As the article stands now it is not notable - he may pass WP:GNG but not right now." Notability has nothing to do with the shape of an article, see Potential, not just current state, it is a good essay. Our article is a poor stub, but it is referenced and entirely acceptable, in my opinion. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 14:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of that - just don't think he's notable based only on WP:GNG - just my opinion. I still would like to see the article expanded and am willing to change my vote if the impression changes.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:GNG usually trumps notability guidelines of individual Wikiprojects (such as KICK) ... but you are entitled to your opinion, of course. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete Sources are mainly fight results or announcements (routine coverage). A fan letter to the editor is not a reliable source nor is making money an automatic indication of notability (especially when the linked article never mentions money).  Not enough to meet GNG and definitely doesn't meet KICK.204.126.132.231 (talk) 18:29, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I made various changes in the article to address the issue of notability and seek out information that provides more context on the importance of Golola in the wider context of Ugandan society. There is information in his native language that I couldn't use as sources - perhaps someone with knowledge of that language can review those articles and add that information to this article. I also didn't bother to add information on his kickboxing career, as doing so is apparently just a waste of time in determining notability - someone else will have to fix that part of the article.123.193.40.25 (talk) 04:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Its not a waste of time - just doesn't put him over the top on notability. At the very least it provides context.  The additions you made look good toward establishing WP:GNG.Peter Rehse (talk) 06:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 10:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  02:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Although he doesn't meet WP:KICK, I believe there are now enough sources to show he meets WP:GNG. He apparently is a big deal in his home country. Papaursa (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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