Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosotho chakela


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The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 09:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Mosotho chakela

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Singer whose album and record company cannot be found on Google. Very likely non-notable.  Samuel  Tan  01:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete as unverifiable. In addition, I searched the two references given for his name and it is not on the websites.  Drawn Some (talk) 01:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep 271 Google hits for "Mosotho chakela". Remember, just because he hasn't released anything in english, doesn't make him non-notable.--Auric (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Non-notable, non verifiable. Google returns 27 unique hits, mostly from forums and WP mirrors. Google News and Lexis return zero hits. — Bdb484 (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  cab (talk) 01:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: verifiable, at minimum: This book describes him as a "star" and states that he won a South Africa Traditional Music Achievement Award (South Africa has many Sesotho speakers, so I'd imagine he has some cross-border popularity). cab (talk) 01:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - (e/) with CAB) I'm sad enough to read some of those 27 hits. As a musician from Lesotho he is unlikely to have much coverage in Western media, but we must ensure that we counter systemic bias WP:CSB. This 2007 news summary suggests he was being searched for by police (not quite sure why, didn't read all of it, but it chimes with the political problems noted on the forums, smoe of his music is apparently banned in Lesotho) and states on pg 11 "‘Mosotho’ Chakela is particularly well known because of his skill as a famo (sic) musician." He had billing at what seems to be a major African music festival (140,000 attendees in Sep 2008) 1 and 2. It seems Famo is a type of music, he was nominated and won an award for it at the South African Traditional Music Awards in 2006. A Google search for "Chakele famo" reveals he's mentioned in two wp articles, All Basotho Convention & Morija Arts & Cultural Festival and a book. I therefore believe there he is of sufficient notability to remain, and I'll sort out the article at the weekend, along with everything else I've got on my list! Bigger digger (talk) 01:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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