Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosque of Idlib Sermin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Mosque of Idlib Sermin

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An individual building that is not notable. The fact it is damaged does not make it notable. JetBlast (talk) 13:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000(talk) 15:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 15:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. An historic Fatimid era (i.e. medieval) mosque. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Why is the topic non-notable? Was this nomination for deletion based upon the suggested source searching per section D of WP:BEFORE? Northamerica1000(talk) 15:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Its just a building at the end of the day. Do we create an article for every building that has been damaged in the world? --JetBlast (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's an historic building. It's not the fact that it's been damaged that makes it notable, but the fact that it's an historic mosque, as stated in the referenced document. And yes, we do create articles for historic buildings. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:05, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - A brief trivial mention in a single source does not give enough weight to warrant an article. The article fails WP:GNG. This article's AfD is identical to Articles for deletion/Mosque al-Herak, so that's the one I'll be watching; no need to say the same comment and have the same discussion across multiple pages. - SudoGhost 16:21, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - My confidence in the reliability of the current main source for the article is somewhat shaken by the author having, apparently unintentionally, listed the mosque twice under different descriptions. However, both the Daily Telegraph and Salon have mentioned the damage to the mosque, so we do have reliable sources. I have added these sources to the existing article on Sermin. As, so far as I can see, this article was created to justify including the mosque in List of heritage damaged during Syrian Civil War, I would suggest that should this article be deleted, the link on the relevant entry on that list should be redirected to the article on the town. PWilkinson (talk) 12:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 20:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  TheSpecialUser TSU 13:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably keep – The nomination is vague; there's no specific qualification based upon policies/guidelines why it's considered by the nom as non-notable, other than the building's more recent state of existence. I'm more impressed by User:PWilkinson's and User:Necrothesp's comments above, which seem congruent with retaining the article and allowing time for further improvements/merging/etc. Northamerica1000(talk) 15:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep One of the references is an article called "Damage to the soul: Syria's cultural heritage in conflict" which mentions it. All buildings that are old and listed somewhere as notable, be it an official government register of historic sites, or by the media, are notable enough to have a Wikipedia article.   D r e a m Focus  20:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep The Fatimid Islamic Caliphate dates 909-1171. If Necrothesp (talk is correct that this mosque dates back to that time, it is an historic building, and the article should be kept. Perhaps the damage drew attention to it, but that is not a reason to doubt that the mosque is notable, and a stub article is justified. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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