Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Motor racing career of Fernando Alonso (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Fernando Alonso. Clear consensus below not to retain the article as a standalone. No real consensus on whether to merge or not. Hence, I am closing as 'redirect', and any interested editor can rescue the content of the article from behind the redirect and go through normal editorial processes if they wish to merge some/all of the content. Daniel (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Motor racing career of Fernando Alonso
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This is just a content fork of his own article. Tvx1 17:10, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. Tvx1 17:10, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Spain.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:28, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Fernando Alonso – While this article does offer more detail, I agree with the nomination that this is an innapropriate content fork. The racing record sections are a direct duplication, the fork merely expands on his career. I will note that the main article is only 36k characters, and the fork is 49k. Since a lot of the fork (lead and results tables) can be discarded, and the remainder would replace the bulk of the main article anyway, the final product should still be within the acceptable size range described in the WP:SIZERULE. 5225C (talk &bull; contributions) 02:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nothing to merge that isn't already covered in the parent article, except for useless, bloated WP:FANCRUFT which shouldn't be merged anyway such as lines like "Alonso visited the team's factory in Enstone during pre-season for a seat fitting to feel comfortable in the R25.[43] He felt the more powerful and driveable car was more constant over a long period of time and that it had improved braking and stability.[44] The media considered Renault the pre-season favourites to win the championship and predicted a closely fought duel between Alonso and his teammate Giancarlo Fisichella.[45] Alonso said he entered the year in a positive mood and push hard and enjoy racing.[46]" - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 13:43, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * First preference is to keep and then completely gut the relevant sections from the parent article instead leaving just the link to this article. I think that Alonso's article is long enough as it is. Second preference is to merge most of the non-formula 1 content, in particular Endurance racing career, IndyCar Series and Off-road racing which aren't covered in enough detail in the main article (I tend to agree with the above that some of the F1 coverage of this article needs to be trimmed). A7V2 (talk) 23:17, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The IndyCar section also contains excessively detailed WP:FANCRUFT that should not be merged, such as "Alonso was mentored by the 2003 Indianapolis 500 winner Gil de Ferran,[216] and Michael Andretti was his strategist.[217] He visited Andretti Autosport's headquarters in Indianapolis on 24 April for a seat fitting. Alonso was acquainted with his race engineer and Andretti Autosports technical director Eric Bretzman and the crew chief Dave Popielarz.[218] He then spent time in Honda Performance Development's oval simulator under the supervision of De Ferran to prepare for the race.[217]" - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 14:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Selective merge of any DUE content, delete the rest. JoelleJay (talk) 17:55, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested by several editors here. There's plenty of room in the subject article for a detailing of his career, which is the reason he's notable in the first place. BusterD (talk) 23:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.