Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Motorball


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Battle Angel Alit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:20, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Motorball

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This topic does not establish notability, and it is mostly a collection of fictional details not pertaining to the real world. TTN (talk) 22:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm not terribly sure about the wording of the second half of your rationale, but I do agree that this doesn't meet notability standards. A cursory search doesn't find any of the commentary that I would expect to find (sociologists love talking about sports and culture presented in dystopian fiction) that would make this notable.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  03:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge Important plot element in notable series. The subject of a movie short. Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see that as a valid arguement. The question here is notability, specifically the notability of Motorball apart from that of the works it appears in. If the movie short is notable, Motorball can be discussed in the movie short, but it's important to distinguish that the sources would be covering the movie short, of which Motorball is an aspect, rather than Motorball itself.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  06:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the parent subject is notable, there is no valid deletion rationale. Whether to keep this content broken out or to mrege and redirect is an editing decision. Major plot elements and characters of fictional works can be retained. We're not running out of pages. If it's better covered in the main aritcle then so be it. Candleabracadabra (talk) 12:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that per WP:NRVE, "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition". Without secondary coverage establishing notability, retaining the topic as stand alone is out of question. However per WP:MERGE, discussing a merge at AfD is acceptable.Folken de Fanel (talk) 18:01, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge The topic certainly deserves a mention in the main Battle Angel Alita article as an important part of the plot. Otherwise, with no significant coverage from secondary sources, this fails WP:GNG and shouldn't be a stand-alone article.Folken de Fanel (talk) 18:01, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge per Folken de Fanel. As the subject of the article has not been covered in enough reliable sources, at most any referenced/enyclopedic material can be incorporated into the parent article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I exported the full history over to http://manga.wikia.com/wiki/Motorball  D r e a m Focus  20:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Battle Angel Alita. It was an important arc in the story, but there's no reason to have an article on such a non-notable topic.  If someone can find critical commentary, it can be recreated, but I don't see any usable third party sources.  Redirect or delete would be acceptable, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:16, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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