Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mottville Township Cemetery


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:59, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Mottville Township Cemetery

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There is no assertion of independent notability, and searches for information on this turn up nothing except that the cemetery exists. That means that this article fails WP:GNG. Being the final resting place for a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient does not confer notability to the cemetery, as notability can't be inherited.  Imzadi 1979  →   18:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG, as there are no sources which make more than a passing mention of the cemetery. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 08:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As per WP:Five pillars, Wikipedia incorporates elements of gazeteers.  WP:Five pillars is "fundamental principles", while WP:GNG is a subset of a guideline.  Reliable national databases identify this geo-location, and we know that government-run cemeteries in the US have excellent maps and well-defined property boundaries. Unscintillating (talk) 03:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * We also require that the subjects of our articles have notability to warrant an article. This article does not state anything more than it exists and the name of one person buried there. Reliable databases also list the properly boundaries for my parents' house, but merely existing is not a criteria for article inclusion.  Imzadi 1979  →   05:15, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but reverting as the nominator did at M-103 (Michigan highway) with the edit comment, "on-notable 'landmark'", does not show that nominator's priority here, which in the preceding response includes using the word "we" without references, is improving the encyclopedia. Editors aren't going to find Barber Island discussed on the front page of the New York Times, but people in Australia gave it a name because they thought that it was "worthy of notice".  Cartographers (secondary, third-party independent sources) give us significant coverage of the borders of this island on maps.  I suspect an underlying reason this cemetery has been nominated is because Mottville Township only has 2000 people, and it would help if the sextant would get a map on the webpage; but this cemetery is no less notable than any other government-run cemetery.  Unscintillating (talk) 12:23, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This isn't Arlington National Cemetery, and just being a plot of government property does not equate to notability. At most, two sentences about this cemetery (it exists; it has a Medal of Honor recipient bured there) can be added to Mottville Township, Michigan, but that doesn't mean that the subject even warrants a redirect to the township article.  Imzadi 1979  →   00:36, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - Looks like a run-of-the-mill cemetery.  Dough 48  72  00:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:N. Wikipedia is WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information, or a directory of everything that exists. Edison (talk) 15:12, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.