Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mouhcine Fikri


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Discussion here regarding a page move to retitle the article can continue on the article talk page if desired. North America1000 03:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Mouhcine Fikri

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Routine coverage of the subject of an event which does not meet WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 20:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * This seems a bit premature, since the effects of his death are still being debated. I googled his name on the 'google news' search function, and I limited the search period to the past two weeks. it came up with more than four pages of news articles published in the past 14 days, that referenced Mouhcine Fikri. Clearly he is a person of importance, though in this case because of the effects of this death and manner of dying. What is your evidence that 'duration of coverage' is not great enough, given that it is receiving coverage still today? Tsop (talk) 14:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * First off, the sources are WP:PRIMARYNEWS and I think the subject's death does not even meet WP:LASTING because it has not been critically analysed. His death is just one of the many reasons why protests (even before his death) have been held in the country per this . —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 16:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * "His death is just one of the many reasons why protests (even before his death) have been held in the country per this." So to ascertain the relevance of this article we have to debate the reasons why people are protesting in Morocco? Absurd. Clearly his death is significant. In total there are more than 7,200 results when googling 'Mouhcine Fikri' on the Google News search function. Yes, some will be duplicates, but we are talking about a person whose name has been mentioned in more than 1,000 news articles. Where are people going to visit to learn information about this individual, if not on Wikipedia? Tsop (talk) 11:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You should note that passing mentions does not prove notability. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 15:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * In three of the articles referenced in the article, Fikri is directly mentioned in the headline. These are clearly not 'passing mentions'. I would like an experienced administrator to weigh in on this matter, because I sense bias on your part - too many shifting explanations. Alternatively, can rename to Death of Mouhcine Fikri, and expand the article.

Strong Delete: In accordance with the statement of the nominator;, coverage of the subject fails to meet WP:PERSISTENCE Celestina007 (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC).

Strong Keep This individual is notable for an event that occurred in 2016. Therefore it seems difficult to make an appeal to WP:PERSISTENCE. The entry itself notes: "[Persistence] may be difficult or impossible to determine shortly after the event occurs, as editors cannot know whether an event will receive further coverage or not. That an event occurred recently does not in itself make it non-notable." In addition, Mouhcine Fikri continues to be written about in news coverage. I believe this article could be moved to Death of Mouhcine Fikri in accordance with convention. Tsop (talk) 08:47, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Keep but move to Death of Mouhcine Fikri. The Moroccan protests have been widely reported and described as being caused by his death. WP:EFFECT applies to this topic, in my opinion. Cjhard (talk) 02:33, 23 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete unless someone can find solid secondary source coverage. As you know if you've taken any serious history classes, reports about current events are primary sources; "news reports in newspapers are secondary sources" is a fringe theory and needs to be treated as such.  Nyttend (talk) 04:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:37, 2 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To discuss whether to rename or possibly merge to an article about the protests
 * Keep but expand and move. Just because something has happened in the last year doesn't exclude it from history. Over 12,000 articles on Google news search, worldwide indepth coverage. News reports can be primary or secondary sources. The events in Morocco are much more significant and long-lasting than what we are trying to avoid with the guidelines cited in deletion arguments. Jack N. Stock (talk) 02:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  So Why  08:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


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