Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mountaineer Boys State


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Boys/Girls State. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Mountaineer Boys State

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Boys' State as a program is notable, but I do not feel that the individual state programs are themselves notable. In essence they are child organizations involved in the same activity; in a similar vein, the American Legion is notable, but individual AL posts and state organizations are not. Tyrenon (talk) 06:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of West Virginia-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep at least for now. If there is sufficient content, I don't see a problem with having a separate article.  I'd let this article have some time to grow.  This article was AfDed only about 2 hours after it was created.  I'd suggest that the nominator jumped the gun. Brian Powell (talk) 14:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge to Boys/Girls State. There is significant in-depth coverage (try looking for West Virginia Boys State) but it is all in-state and even though WP:CLUB specifically says that other criteria such as the age of the organization can be considered only a good paragraph is really specific to this state's organization and it's really an annual event.  Interestingly enough in the parent article, students are complaining that something sponsored by the American Legion is "militaristic, superpatriotic, and heavily tilted to God and country." Who would have imagined such a thing?  Drawn Some (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In that general vein, if information could be assembled about a batch of the states' programs (say, 7-10), I wouldn't be averse to seeing a single dedicated page to the various programs as a sub-page of the general program page. For lack of a better way to put it, while the individual programs aren't quite notable on their own, a paragraph on each program would simply overwhelm the general article.  Fair disclosure point on that: I did attend VA's program, and I've been a counselor at VA's as well.Tyrenon (talk) 07:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That midght be appropriate if a number of state programs started to overwhelm the primary article. In this case it is just a few sentences. If there were five sentences on each of 50 states that would be about 250 lines but probably most of them have nothing to distinguish themselves from the other 49.  Regardless it should be a natural process of spin-outs from the primary article as notability for a topic is established and the amount of information warrants a separate article. Drawn Some (talk) 14:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fair. The ones that bear mention in my mind are probably the first one or two of each, the last one or two of each (and why they were the last), and ones with big controversies.  Most of the others are somewhat "garden variety".
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mrmaggoo13 (talk) 01:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC) *Keep This article has been updated to include more information and it doesn't make sense to overload the page chosen to merge the information into.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.