Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Movement for Change (Greece)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- HindWikiConnect 13:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Movement for Change (Greece)

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Blatant crystallballing, sorry but if the party is being founded in 2018 then it has not been founded, and a lot may happen to stop it happening. Slatersteven (talk) 18:51, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It essentially exists already (Greek media seems to now refer to Fofi Gennimata as Movement for Change leader rather than PASOK leader, for example), albeit as a grouping of parties. To be factually precise, it hasn't yet been founded as a single political party yet. Perhaps the article should be amended to mention that it is currently an alliance rather than a party?--Autospark (talk) 19:09, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but I am not sure that anything less then burning and starting from scratch is going to work. As you seem to have figured out, it is all a bit confused as to what this is.Slatersteven (talk) 19:15, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Articles on proposed parties are frequent in en.Wiki. In this case, the party's foundation is certain, thus it is good to have a Wiki article on the issue covering the party's background and foundation. The party boasts even a leadership already! --Checco (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Merry Christmas! Baby miss  fortune 23:08, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep Because the sourcing seems to be there.  Kathimerini, the center-left naitonal paper is all over it, even in the English edition (the paper that comes folded inside the NYTimes Internatinoal edition when you're in Greece, even though not every article in Kathimerini gets translated into English, typical article: Center-left reveals members of top decision-making body, they are covering it like a regular - if new - political party.  As is Hurriyet, the Turkish equivalent of th eNew York Times and Kathimerini (folded into your Intl NYTimes when you're in Istanbul) Greeks await Erdoğan’s visit with fingers crossed.  text: "The new united socialist-leftist coalition under the name “Movement for Change” has already climbed to the third place in opinion polls with an upward trend with the main opposition party of New Democracy remaining at the top of the list. So, Erdoğan's presence in Athens may have an impact on domestic ...".  Come election day, our readers will expect this party to have a page.  If it fizzles, we can always move it to a list of defunct parties.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Checco. Mélencron (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, as per Checco. Impru20 (talk) 22:58, 16 December 2017 (UTC)


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