Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Movement for the abolition of meat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. v/r - TP 23:57, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Movement for the abolition of meat

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Pure original research. OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above. Also spamming (see ). --viniciusmc 23:00, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, Translation of the French article (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouvement_pour_l%27abolition_de_la_viande) on wikipedia (and spam is publicity : nothing other... nothing to buy with this article! and “The term "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists” : it is not the case ! The censorship is not encyclopaedic either)--Abdel Sinoctou (talk) 23:11, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Self-published sources, such as the group's own website and press releases, do not establish notability. An article which does not mention the group but just describes some sort of anti-meat protest does not establish notability either.  Also, Wikipedia is not for publicity or promotion. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:34, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep pending more content and references. Nomming an article for AfD on the same day that it is created is simply ridiculous. Give the guy a chance to actually finish it for goodness sake.  Deterence  Talk 23:18, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: OR and spam (on an extraordinary multi-project scale resulting in blocks on Danish and Swedish WPs). Yes, it's a direct translation of the French article, but that article would also be considered OR and spam under English Wikipedia standards. Delete in its entirety. Not very likely that this will ever develop into a full-fledged article. The material that would be added in the future would be more useful if added to other articles on vegetarianism and animal rights rather than in a stand-alone article of this scope. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 23:27, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per nom and user:dominus. Promotion of a not independently notable movement.Off2riorob (talk) 23:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 23:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Until the movement gets covered in secondary sources it does not meet WP's notability standards. Steve Dufour (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - into Animal rights movement. Appears to be a legitimate, tho small, group based in France.  Okay to delete article, but move the content into  Animal rights movement first. --Noleander (talk) 01:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested by Noleander. It might be worth a brief mention in the ARM article but it certainly doesn't need its own article at this time.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:05, 17 September 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Delete No credible references used, no mention of the extent of this movement so no notability. This article is part of a massive spamming campaign on wikipedia, see m:User:COIBot/XWiki/meat-abolition.org for the spam log. The (external) link that was abused has been globally blacklisted. EdBever (talk) 06:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect without merge - No sources establish notability. There are not even RSs that qualify the group any mention in other articles.  Still, judging from this group's activism, they may be satisfied (or at least confused enough to not bother) if the article about their generically named group redirected to Animal rights movement, Vegetarianism, or something else, and the redirect page was locked like a virgin's panties in the Crusades. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - bordering on spam, there is nothing to merge, because its content is basically sourced by one group's public relations website. The one reliable source, an article in Le Monde, is about how difficult it is for the movement to get any traction; basically it says it's not notable, but its advocates are trying to make it so (your translation may differ).  See WP:CRYSTAL and WP:HAMMER. Bearian (talk) 18:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC) P.S. The |en|Parler%20d'abolition%20de%20la%20viande%20reste%20tr%C3%A8s%20difficile Google literal translation of the title is "To speak of abolition of meat remains very difficult", but I stand by my summary of the article. Bearian (talk) 18:40, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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