Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mozaffarabad, Bardsir


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  04:25, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Mozaffarabad, Bardsir

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Fails WP:GEOLAND:

Its population has been reported exactly 0 people in the 2016 census. Ctrl+F "119172" here.

See Special:Permalink/1016886834 for more information. 4nn1l2 (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. 4nn1l2 (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. 4nn1l2 (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, clicking on the "coordinates" in the article and taking a look thru gmaps (see here) there does appear to be some sort of settlement there. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:11, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You really need to read the background hyperlinked in the nomination. The problem is that all of these things, thousands of them, have been labelled "village".  They're one-fact articles and the problem with that fact is that it's a misinterpretation of the database that was used, and is not actually true.  The very first question to answer is a fundamental one: What kind of settlement?  We've found motorized water pumps, farms, wells, industrial estates, and more besides; none of which are villages.  The only reason that this isn't gone already is that someone added an external hyperlink to one of those WWW sites that generates information algorithmically.  (Hooray!  This "city" is over a megametre from the nearest hotel.)  Otherwise it would have been in another section of User:Alexis Reggae/Articles for locations oh my what a mess. Uncle G (talk) 23:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of an actual "village" here.Jackattack1597 (talk) 10:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Contrary to Coolabahapple's apparent point (and please forgive me if I am misinterpreting Coola), whilst Wikipedia has features of a gazeteer, it is not a gazeteer per se. This means that unlike, say, GNIS, or the National Land and Property Gazetteer it is not a collection of place-names and addresses regardless of notability. Evidence of some kind of settlement at the location is not proof that we should have an article about it. In this case we have data from the Iranian census (that does not only record populated places, and does not only record populations by village/town/city but also at work-places/farms/pumps/households) and some buildings at the location on GMaps (that appears to be a farm).
 * Even if this is a populated place, there is no evidence that it is a legally-recognised populated place as required by WP:GEOLAND. For example some evidence of incorporation or local administration might show this, but there is none. Alternatively two instances of significant coverage in reliable sources would be enough to clear WP:GNG, but again there is no such coverage in reliable sources.
 * Finally, GMaps mirrors data from Wikipedia as well as sources we know to be unreliable (e.g., GNIS) and is therefore itself an unreliable source. FOARP (talk) 12:21, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


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