Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mozart Was a Red (2nd nomination)


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The result was   merge to Murray Rothbard. Courcelles 20:06, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Mozart Was a Red
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Though there is no AfD category for plays/musicals, Mozart was a Red utterly fails to meet the general notability criteria at WP:GNG. There is virtually no independent RS discussion of this play (with perhaps one exception: anarcho-capitalist Brian Doherty's Radicals for Capitalism mentions the play in his biographical discussion of its author, Murray Rothbard) and no evidence that it has contributed to discourse, either popular or academic, on aesthetics or the arts. That this play -- which was performed once at a fringe political Institute -- has a WP entry while many broadway hits from 10-20 years ago don't, is simply absurd. Whether it should simply be deleted or merged into the Rothbard article is an open question, but I tend to think this content would be a superfluous addition to the Rothbard page, which already has a discussion of his break with Ayn Rand and a brief mention of the play. Steeletrap (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep. The Doherty book noted above calls this "a libertarian movement samizdat classic"; other book references place this work in the context of Rothbard's critique of Rand and his efforts "to turn fellow libertarians against" her  and one calls it a "magnum opus" . Our understanding of Rothbard is better with than without this content. --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Nothing notable about this and never published or discussed outside the Author's circle. It can go in his biography if RS establishes its significance for that context. SPECIFICO  talk  00:35, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Murray Rothbard (author). I can't find much significant coverage, and it doesn't appear to have received any critical consideration as a work of literature or outside of the libertarian right. But Rothbard is an important thinker, and it does have coverage in libertarian sources. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to Rothbard's article, the mentions above are to brief for it to have a standalone article. Dougweller (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge per Colapeninsula. This is notable for Rothbard, but not for Wikipedia. MilesMoney (talk) 17:44, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Murray Rothbard is what I supported on the article talk page a while back, and it still makes sense. There isn't enough source material for this to be independently notable, but there is enough WP:RS information to allow to be discussed in the article about Rothbard. --RL0919 (talk) 19:45, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Murray Rothbard - unpublished work with low amounts of coverage should be directed to the author. If it has some noteworthiness it can be mentioned there. Mkdw talk 17:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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