Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Beatz


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The result was   delete. Black Kite (talk) 17:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Beatz

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Biography of a record producer. There are numerous mentions of him in the form of recording credits in publications such as Billboard and Spin, but I could not find any reliable sources that cover him in any depth. Fails WP:MUSICBIO. - MrX 20:34, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:GNG, fails WP:MUSICBIO, no evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources. I agree entirely with MrX. --Bejnar (talk) 06:49, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:COMPOSER for "Always Strapped". 78.18.13.94 (talk) 22:22, 21 July 2014 (UTC) — 78.18.13.94 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Sorry he was the producer, not the composer or the lyricist. WP:COMPOSER does not apply. --Bejnar (talk) 04:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Producers as it relates to hip hop production, are also co-composers of the song, which is reflected in the related album's liner notes. However, I would say Delete. This producer has not received enough significant coverage in reliable sources to be worthy of their own article at this point per WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. STATic message me!   09:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, in hip hop the producer is the composer of the musical track ("the beat", hence this producer's name). This is confirmed by the credits in this case. STATic does not deny that WP:COMPOSER is met but for some reason decides to apply other guidelines but not the one that is clearly met? And will Bejnar now return a third time to !vote Keep? Lol. "Hope is the thing with feathers…" 78.19.26.160 (talk) 22:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Meeting one point of WP:COMPOSER does not warrant a keeping of the article if they do not meet WP:GNG. STATic message me!   08:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a personal opinion unsupported by guidelines (site-wide consensus). WP:N is explicit: notability is presumed if "it meets either the general notability guideline…or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific guideline". 78.19.26.160 (talk) 01:59, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  01:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Question How distinctive for each song is the beat in hip-hop? Does it vary considerably from song to song? --Bejnar (talk) 05:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * By beat, the IP editor means the overall instrumental of the song. "Beat" is slang for the instrumental, every song's beat or instrumental is different. However, producing one single notable song does not warrant the producer meeting the relevant notability guidelines as notability is not inherited from the song. STATic message me!   08:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I agree, the little here does not encourage me to change my opinion that the article should be deleted. More is necessary in coverage, and partial credit for one charted song, is not enough. --Bejnar (talk) 06:33, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:COMPOSER says otherwise. It is one of "the relevant notability guidelines". 78.19.26.160 (talk) 01:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the musician, ensemble, composer, or lyricist notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Not true here. You cannot build a pyramid with one brick. --Bejnar (talk) 03:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Simply wrong. See my July 26 reply to STATic. You're quoting a note appended to musicbio 1—that is the criterion which restates the GNG for WP:MUSIC! 78.19.26.160 (talk) 06:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That note is also at Notability (music) of which WP:COMPOSER is a part, and directly refers to composers. --Bejnar (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 06:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails th notability guidelines.Forbidden User (talk) 17:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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