Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Monk and the Astronaut


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. L Faraone  04:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Monk and the Astronaut

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 * Reason: this episode of Monk (TV series) fails to met the GNG or the interpretation of it given in FICTION. TV plot articles like this also fail to meet the specific definition of WP:IINFO#1.


 * Keep. Memorable episode. Page could be reformatted and information reorganized, but other than that, it's in a good place. It's also a memorable episode to everyone, like with Mr. Monk Goes to the Dentist. DReifGalaxyM31 (talk) 01:49, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I think that Mr. Monk Goes to the Dentist got saved, in part, from the same unexplained statement that it was "memorable", along with some of the old school "every episode of every TV show should have an article" arguments. This one, at first glance, suggests real world notability ("Stanley Tucci won an Emmy award for his performance as David Ruskin in the episode.") which is b.s. of the worst variety -- Tucci appeared in an episode called Mr. Monk and the Actor.  There's an [|entertainment Wiki for Monk episodes] that exists especially for those folks who believe that every Monk episode deserves its own article.  The episode is memorable to me too, what with Monk chasing a jet fighter on foot, but that doesn't make it notable enough for its own article.  Mandsford 20:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Mandsford. As an aside, article was nominated on November 24 but the AFD was never transcluded until another editor accidentally filed a second nomination. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 21:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nomination that appears to be my original PROD. Fæ (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Very memorable episode. Unfortunately, can't keep just because of that due to WP:ILIKEIT.  However, with the addition of a Production and Reception section (something I've said over and over on these nominations), it will be notable enough.  So, for now, I say we hold off on deleting it immediately. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And again, where do you suggest we build it up? Using sources pulled out of your own butt? I'm not seeing any secondary sources anywhere to make such sections. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 22:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I tend toward Keep for episode summaries and plots, they tend to be the most read articles in Wikipedia. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if they're crappy clumps of trivia? Tell me how this episode meets WP:GNG. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Britney's boobs would be the most read article in Wikipedia if it were created, but that doesn't mean it should be kept. --Pontificalibus (talk) 23:14, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Britney's boobs is probably a poor example, I get some good matches in GBooks and several reliable articles in GNews about Britney's boobs. Fæ (talk) 23:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 23:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Monk (season 4), per WP:ATD and WP:BEFORE. No delete reason has been articulated above that precludes a merge or redirection. Jclemens (talk) 02:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that merge or redirect are normal outcomes from an AfD and so do not preclude these options. BEFORE appears to have been followed and your own edit comment when you removed the PROD on this article recommended AfD; what is it about the process here you are objecting to? Thanks, Fæ (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to Monk (season 4), do not keep as a separate article. Article contains only plot (WP:NOT) and (in-universe) trivia in prose form. The actor Emmy was for a different episode, but even if it was for this episode, a one sentence blurb still fits in the LoE. No evidence of WP:NOTABILITY for this episode otherwise. – sgeureka t•c 08:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.