Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. and Mrs. Beaver


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The result was redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 03:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Mr. and Mrs. Beaver

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant English-language coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. The article was deprodded without a rationale, despite specifically being asked for. Sigh. Here we go. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  01:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. I could only find minor coverage in a few sources. For instance, this book and this journal article have some critical analysis on Mrs. Beaver. This book mentions both characters, but it is only in the context of plot summary. I could not find enough to prove significant coverage. I propose a redirect as the character names may be viable search terms. Aoba47 (talk) 03:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters, per Aoba47. The first source mentioned above actually is pretty good, though it only really focuses on Mrs Beaver, rather than the couple.  But the rest are just very brief mentions or plot summaries.  There is not enough WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources to support an independent article.  Rorshacma (talk) 06:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect.  Per above.  --Devokewater (talk) 07:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There's plenty of detailed coverage as these are significant characters in a major work which has been the subject of much literary analysis. Per WP:NEXIST, "The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable." Our policies WP:ATD; WP:NOTPAPER;WP:IMPERFECT and WP:PRESERVE apply and so there is no case for deletion. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You still need to show (link) to sources with that coverage. And considering your record on linking to bad sources, please either quote passages from them or describe how they discuss the topic, to show is they are not plot summaries or mentions in passing in half a sentence or so. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:11, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. There is no evidence that this couple passes GNG. A rambling WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES claim does not change the fact that these characters are not notable. Devonian Wombat (talk) 13:36, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters - GizzyCatBella  🍁  02:21, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not meant to have articles on every names or in this case psuedo-named character in a work of fiction. We need substantive coverage of their contribution and importance in the work from 3rd party indepdent sources, which is lacking in this case.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. I doubt there is significant coverage of just the beavers, but if there is, I will change my vote. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete / Redirect due to lack of coverage in reliable third party sources, as per the WP:GNG. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


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