Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mu Sigma Phi (medical fraternity)


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 14:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Mu Sigma Phi (medical fraternity)

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Self-sourced article on a fraternity. No evidence of significance. Guy (Help!) 00:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 04:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 04:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep The article says it was founded in 1933 and "is the first medical fraternity in the Philippines and in Asia". It also notes awards and honors recieved. And it also provides the indication of a source in the November 1933 Philippine Collegian. So notability is well established and efforts should be made to obtain this source and others for further information and better citations. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * DeleteFraternity at a single college. By precedent from ones in the US, they are never notable unless there is something unsually important, and eveythingreported here is routine. Trivial awards, essentially for being the best local fraternity in a particular year--but none of them are notable. It is not in any sense at all a national fraternity.DGG (talk) 03:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There are several references in the article and I think recognition by the Presidential Commission for Urban Poor: "Most Active NGO Partner in Luzon", an award conferred by then President Fidel V. Ramos. And recognition as "Best Community Oriented Student Organization" in 2002. And "2007 Most Outstanding Student Organization in the University of the Philippines-Manila after also being bestowed the same honor the previous year" counts for something. The oldest medical fraternity in Asia? This absolutely belongs in the encyclopedia although the article could be improved.ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:22, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 05:29, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: not entirely self-sourced, secondary sources exist. -- : Raphaelmak : [ talk ] [ contribs ] 06:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep, referenced presidential award clearly shows notability. Huon (talk) 11:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep One of the best known Medical Fraternities in the Philippines.Naraht (talk) 19:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.