Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muckgers


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The result was No consensus. with no prejudice against speedy renomination (non-admin closure) czar ♔   20:57, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Muckgers

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Student blog with little indication of notability, and heavy reliance on self-published sources. Apparently broke one story that received some national coverage. PROD tag was removed. —Swpbtalk 20:46, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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Muckgers is owned by Muckgers Media LLC. It is a legally incorporated and independently owned local news reporting organization akin to Rutgers' other student run publication The Daily Targum. How much local national/international news it makes does not address whether it is notable in the local community. Muckgers serves a community of 35000 students and 55000 residents. It is notable in the same sphere as other hyperlocals. See The Alternative Press, for example.

Further, according to Notability (media), a newspaper needs to produce award winning work (Muckgers received grant from state org) and is considered reliable (Muckgers was cited by other state news as well as [[Sports Illustrated, Associated Press, Star Ledger, USA Today. Being cited by secondary sources also meets Notability (media)'s primary criterion. Simongalperin (talk) 02:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Clearly, getting a grant is not what is meant by "award-winning work". Grants are awarded every day to organizations that have done literally nothing at all. And coverage with respect to a single event is not necessarily enough to sufficiently establish notability. —Swpbtalk 12:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

But is also not necessarily not enough to establish notability. I understand your argument but notability doesn't exist in a vacuum - notability is relative to the individuals that find it notable. I think you're suggesting that relatively few of the hundreds of millions of English speakers find Muckgers notable. However, that does not mean the org is not notable regionally. There is also the issue of suggesting that hyperlocal news is not as relevant or doesn't serve its population as well as national news - an issue of democratization.Simongalperin (talk) 17:42, 17 September 2014 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 05:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 17:25, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


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