Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Ali Abdur Rahkman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Nakon 05:04, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Muhammad Ali Abdur Rahkman

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 * Queried AfD as hoax: Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Discussion copied to here from my user talk page :: Muhammad Ali Abdur Rahkman

 * Is this not real?--Bbb23 (talk) 06:06, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * @User:Bbb23: It still looks not notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:08, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This was my mistake. The article looked like a copy of a different article with just the name changed. I hadn't heard of the player (I haven't followed UM's most recent games), so I tagged it G3. I should have tagged it with a different rationale. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 16:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It's up to you, Anthony, but if you think it should be deleted per A7, then you should restore it and delete it again with that criterion. Having an article deleted as a hoax when it's not a hoax casts an unfair aspersion on the author.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Continued discussion :: Muhammad Ali Abdur Rahkman

 * Query notability. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - College athletes are not inherently notable. If subject does not meet either the WP:GNG or WP:NCOLLATH, no article is warranted. Tarc (talk) 14:40, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Weak keep. Article created 2 days ago.  Rahkman is a freshman and relatively new as a starter.  This article was created on the early end of the spectrum, and the coverage will likely increase as his career progresses.  However, he already appears to have enough significant coverage (i.e., stories focused on him rather than passing mentions in game coverage) in reliable, mainstream media outlets to satisfy WP:GNG. Such overage includes: (1) "The peculiar story of Michigan recruit Muhammad Ali Abdur-Rahkman", Mlive.com (Booth Newspapers), April 2014; (2) Central Catholic grad Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman ready for increased workload at Michigan, The Morning Call, Jan. 2015, (3) "Abdur-Rahkman gaining trust, minutes at U-M," Detroit Free Press, Feb. 2015; (4) "Michigan 'very excited' to add basketball recruit Muhammad Ali Abdur-Rahkman", Detroit Free Press, April 2014; (5) Michigan's Muhammad-Ali Abdur-Rahkman goes from surprise starter to hero in win over Northwestern," Mlive, Jan. 2015. Cbl62 (talk) 18:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Cbl62. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 18:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NCOLLATH and the coverage appears to be that which would be given to any starter on a college basketball team--school and local coverage. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep he is now an important starter and getting press.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 13:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am inherently skeptical of stand-alone articles about hyped college freshman athletes, and I will scrutinize the sources of such articles to make sure that the coverage is significant (not blogs, not recruiting service coverage, not routine post-game articles), there are multiple sources (multiple articles from the same publication count once), that the sources are reliable (not blogs; not all local), and that the sources are independent (not school newspapers; not athletic department, conference, NCAA releases; not recruiting services). Even with that kind of scrutiny, the coverage of this topic clearly passes the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG.  (Thanks to Cbl62 for his usual thorough research.)  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 13:21, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to userspace. I'm skeptical of Rahkman's notability as of the moment. However, that may chance 1-2 years down the road. Right now he is a starter on a non NIT team, which I don't think qualifies as notable as a rule of thumb. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 23:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.