Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Kirumira


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Timothytyy (talk) 00:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Muhammad Kirumira

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NN bio, PROD denied. UtherSRG (talk) 14:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:06, 13 February 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Final relist Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 15:43, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Crime, Police,  and Uganda. UtherSRG (talk) 14:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - simply does not meet WP:GNG. Onel 5969  TT me 17:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Seems to have made an impact before and after this death. Passes WP:GNG
 * https://observer.ug/news/headlines/56775-police-warns-dpc-kirumira-against-resigning-through-media.html
 * https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1470207/muhammad-kirumira-arrested-flying-squad
 * https://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1485389/muhammad-kirumira-shot-bulenga
 * https://observer.ug/viewpoint/58647-police-must-listen-to-kirumira-in-his-death
 * https://ugandaradionetwork.net/story/muhammad-kirumira-was-trailed-for-three-days-state-witness-
 * CT55555 (talk) 04:41, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Other than being a policeman who said stuff, I'm not seeing what he's notable for. Oaktree b (talk) 15:50, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope this doesn't seem argumentative, but I would frame it like he is notable for being a policeman who said stuff, notable for being arrested and then killed. I see three elements (outspokenness, arrest, death) to what he is notable for. CT55555 (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep. As the subject of major national newspaper headlines for a span of multiple years I think he passes WP:GNG. As these include both the bribery allegations, the assassination, and the complications arising from the investigation of the assassination, I think WP:BIO1E is also met. However, it is very difficult for me as a foreigner to sort out what actually happened here. His case appears to be heavily propagandized as a proxy in the conflict between Islam and Christianity in Uganda e.g., and whether his role in corruption in Uganda was one of an anti-corruption fighter or someone who was himself somewhat corrupt (or as often happens both) is also unclear. So if kept, I would urge caution in sourcing, removal of editorializations from the article, and trimming to only verifiable facts (e.g. accused of bribery: true; exonerated: less clear). The difficulty of sorting out truth from propaganda in the sources we have is why my keep is only weak. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:26, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


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