Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Mokaev


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The result was delete. Even the keep argument demonstrates this is not notable Spartaz Humbug! 09:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Muhammad Mokaev

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Subject is a mixed martial arts fighter. Subject fails WP:MMABIO for a mma fighter needs at least 3 fights under tier one promoter such as UFC or Invicta. Subject has no tier one promotion fights and also fails WP:GNG as the fight info is merely trivial routine reports.  Cassiopeia(talk) 07:38, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 07:38, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete With only one professional fight, and that was for a minor organization, he's not close to meeting WP:NMMA. His junior amateur championships also don't meet any WP notability criteria.  Junior martial artists are generally not considered notable and WP:MMANOT starts with the statement "Amateur MMA fighters are not considered notable."  The references all seem to be routine sports reporting with emphasis on his junior amateur MMA career. Papaursa (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Keep Mokaev is one of the most hotly anticipated amateurs to have joined the professional ranks. He is not longer an amateur and is funded by the prince of Bahrain. He now has had 3 professional fights and has won all of them. He has won all of his amateur fights. He wrestles for GB and has a lengthy article on the BBC. The reason why he has this as opposed to other MMA fighters is down his record of unbeaten amateur record and because he highly regarded in MMA circles. He is his 4th professional fight in a few weeks. He is hotly tipped to become a world champion in the professional ranks. Whilst the WP:NMAA criteria have strictly not been met, i feel Mokaev merits a stay of execution on account of his remarkable record, the articles in the media, the people in the Uk circles of MMA know him fairly well and he trains with Professional MMA fighters in the UFC and Bellator (Kane Mousah and Lerone Murphy). He has also trained in Sweden with Chimaev. This week he has been interviewed by CNN, and that too will soon be published.Rassmallai (talk) 01:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * "Hotly tipped", "hotly anticipated" and "highly regarded" are WP:WEASEL ways of saying he might become notable but isn't yet. Notability is not inherited from people who train with him or sponsor him.  Victories in minor organizations do not show notability.  Interviews are not considered as meeting WP:GNG.  Saying the MMA notability "have strictly not been met" is a gross understatement.  Your argument seems to be a case of WP:ILIKEIT when the facts indicate it's definitely WP:TOOSOON. Papaursa (talk) 02:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


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